Saturday, May 31, 2014

UPDATE 4! Even More Info on the Stunt Video and the Darkside Creature!


Today a video supposedly taken from the Episode 7 set was posted on the web. My first reaction was that it doesn’t feel like Star Wars and that it’s fake. But is it…

Possible SPOILERS! 

(May 25, 2014)

First I have to warn you that there might be some spoilers ahead.


So this video was first brought to my attention by this tweet:

Fake on not? http://t.co/yyqcsFhRMe @JediNewsUK @DaisyRidleyNews @starwars7news
— GuerreStellari.net (@GuerreStellariN) May 25, 2014


And that was my first reaction:

@GuerreStellariN @JediNewsUK @DaisyRidleyNews @starwars7news Doesn’t feel like Star Wars to me. My personal opinion is FAKE!
— Star Wars 7 News (@starwars7news) May 25, 2014

Now here are some interesting bits that made me doubt my initial reaction.
Thanks to Harry from the comments section it looks like this video was actually first posted 16 days ago here.

(Keep in mind that the video was posted 16 days ago but it was tagged #daisyridley and #episodevii only 8 days ago)

This is way before the official announcement of the start of filming but just a day before the leaked photo of the AT-AT foot from the Abu Dhabi set. And if that’s legit that definitely has to be Ridley’s stunt double.

The person who posted this has shared his Facebook page and surprisingly his name “Rey-Phillip Santos” is listed on the IMDb page of Episode VII as a production staff.

The same guy posted this image tagged as #darkside.


So I’m still not sure about that one. Stay tuned for more. I know what you think looking at that photo…

Take this with a huge grain of salt.

UPDATE!

2 days before the stunt video got the attention of several SW related sites an interesting comment was posted on the JCF. According to one of the members there who claims to have an inside info:

A source out in Abu Dhabi tells me that Daisy’s character is EXTREMELY gymnastic. Apparently some of her scenes are being doubled by a dancer called Hannah Collins.

Later the cool guys from daisyridleynews posted the following which confirmed that story:

An extra on set of Star Wars Episode VII told me “today was very exciting, very exhausting, but really awesome. it was all about action today, explosions were awesome, and Daisy amazing like always, light on her feet, sharp face, beautiful, quick, and very polite.” 

Also, is Hannah Levitt-Collins, a dancer/model from London, Daisy’s double for some scenes? There’s evidence she’s on set with her, just as there was with Chloe Bruce, the amazing stunt woman.


This is really interesting. Chloe Bruce recently worked with Florian Robin on GOTG and now they both are in Abu Dhabi. Check out Robin’s latest tweet:

Morning #training session with @ChloeDBruce to end up our incredible stay at #QasrAlSarab #dunes #AbuDhabi pic.twitter.com/Ih4iOl13jl
— Florian Robin (@fl0WRobin) May 24, 2014

The hotel tagged #QasrAlSarab is the same one that was mentioned by The National a few weeks ago as the place where the Episode VII crew is staying. It’s also a complete match with the image John Boyega posted on Instagram a few days ago:

Also Florian Robin had retweeted Empire’s article about Ridley on April 29th. 
So it definitely looks like those three are working on Episode 7 as stunt doubles. I think it’s safe to assume that one of the girls is Ridley’s double, but what about the other two? It really doesn’t matter much but this story does give even more credibility on the video and more importantly on the mysterious creature.

Stay tuned for more on that story…
Thanks to Sébastien Launay for the heads up.
Read more on that story HERE!
UPDATE 2!

(May 30, 2014)   

Okay let’s put some more fuel to the fire. Now Rey-Phillip Santos has either deleted or made private his Instagram and Facebook accounts because you can no longer see the stunt video (you can still see it here) and the picture tagged darkside. Also his other photos (including the one with Ray Park) are removed. Here’s their previous location:

Instagram
Facebook
Stage32

And his name is still listed on IMDb as an Episode 7 production staff. 

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Iain McCaig Art of a Sith Witch

While this new update kinda gives some credibility to the guy still take it with the usual amount of salt and treat it as a regular rumor. But have in mind that the darkside creature that Santos posted has a strong resemblance with Iain McCaig’s unused concept art of a Sith Witch from The Phantom Menace. Very often unused concepts from previous movies  are used in future installments. That might be the case here too.

UPDATE 3!

(May 31, 2014) 
We received new info on the leaked #darkside picture. It’s from 3 completely different sources and I think it’s the real deal. I won’t reveal any names for understandable reasons.
Here’s a direct quote from the first source: 
I got in touch with one of the production people in Abu Dhabi. They said Rey-Phillip Santos doesn’t have any social media accounts. He was taken off the film and put on some smaller video game project. He is not fired but demoted. Also its possible that a family member close to him get their hands on the Wardrobe photo and posted it online without his knowledge. I confirmed the photo is real from two staff people. They never denied it other than that it cost Santos’s employment on SW. Someone Mr. Santos trusted got a hold of the photo and leaked it and it may have cost him.
The second source gave even more credibility to the story saying that:
I emailed Rey-Phillip Santos fb before it was deleted. I found out its his daughter running the instagram and vimeo. Not him, I guess he either got fired or signed some non-disclosure agreement even after he gets canned.
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And a third source added:

I was actually able to email several of Santos facebook friends before his profile disappeared they all said he never leaked the photo and that someone close to him had access to all his personal information and on his film projects. Everyone who knows his said the video is not Star Wars nor is it Daisy Ridley. Its some female stunt performer who I don’t know from some rehearsal. The photo is the only thing that appears to be legit. (I think its a NightSister).

 I also know for a fact that the Ray Park photo has nothing to do with Star Wars 7 because almost everyone I contacted his friends list say he is friends with Ray Park way before Phantom Menace when they competed in Martial Arts. It just so happens Rey was working for an actress name Lexa Doig as a advance person for her bookings. Another friend of his said he used to work as a stunt double Stargate Atlantis years ago and doubled for a female actress since he had long black hair at the time. Apparently he no longer has a social media profile so all those are some fake profiles of him using his photos.

I think everything is clear now. The stunt video is not with Daisy Ridley and the photo with Ray Park is not Episode 7 related. Still the image with the #darkside creature appears to be legit and it’s the first major leak from the production.

Still I feel really awful about Rey. It looks like he didn’t do anything wrong and he is about to loose a dream job. I can’t believe a close family member will do this to him by posting a private image on a social network. Obviously it was not intentional. I have great sympathy to the guy and hope that Disney/Lucasfilm will find out the truth and reconsider removing him from the project.

UPDATE 4!

Proof that the stunt video is fake you can find here.

160 comments

  1. “I know what you think looking at that photo..” Oh that’s good, because I certainly don’t know what I’m supposed to make of it.

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    1. It screams Yuuzhan Vong. That makes it even more doubtful. Still it’s a cool story…

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    2. link to img2.wikia.nocookie.net

      I honestly don’t know why you think it looks like a Vong

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    3. Well the ears and the absence of the nose. :)

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    4. Watch it be an extra LOL

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    5. I just assumed you meant it looks like Darth Plagueis.

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    6. @perrymoon – it certainly could be, or the Emperorer? Look on the right side of the image. You’ll notice a blueish triangle (which is a 2nd photo someone used in photo shop) …doesn’t it look like a man wearing a hood, with a white face? Am I the only one who see this?

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    7. Sorry @Keith taylor I can’t see what you mean. What my eyes interpret is a hooded alien profile, pretty similar to darth plagueis drawings we’ve seen so far. link to img2.wikia.nocookie.net

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    8. Darth Plagueis? What? That is Maul-like makeup. Darth Plagueis doesn’t have tattoos. It looks more like a Nightsister or Nightbrother.

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    9. Maybe Lupita playing a night sister?

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    10. This is what I see – look at my photoshop analysis of this image. Everyone wants to look straight at the big distraction in the middle of the photo…but I dont think that is what they intend you to see. For one thing…can a Nightsister or a Vong or whatever yall are talking about be that fat?? Does it have two heads? If none of the above…then I think its a total distraction on purpose….and what I’ve outlined is the real thing were meant to see.

      link to tinypic.com

      and this one:

      link to tinypic.com

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    11. Sorry, Keith Taylor, that’s a load of crap. You’re looking too far into it and you’re now at a stage where you think you’re seeing a snake when you’re actually looking at an elephant’s trunk.

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    12. I agree there nothing that proves its been photoshopped. I think the weed your smoking is making you see thing that are not there.

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  2. Darkside on crack ?? Having fun JJ hmmm Anyways that is not Daisy as she can get injured way to easy doing those things.Thats a stunt double. Anyways if this guy who leaked this is f real his fired.BTW that image looks like a Yuzhong vong.

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    1. …Does it? I don’t see where you’re drawing that connection. It looks like a bad halloween costume to me.

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  3. She screams like an alien whore on crack.

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  4. Looks a bit Sith Witch to me.

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    1. And I always thought a version of the Nightsisters would be an interesting villain group for the sequels. I like the idea of the villains finding a new way to manipulate the Force.

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    2. Spot on! Maybe the photo is fake, but the inference? Who knows?

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    3. nightsisters is go go go.

      yuzhong nooooooo goooo

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    4. agree 100% Nightsisters is a go! Vong not so sure,

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    5. Yuzhon Vong ruined the EU!!!

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    6. I dunno, I mean I liked the Nightsisters in TCW, but I just think they might be a bit too flakey for the movies. Their powers will basically be perceived as being magic to the wider audience if not handled correctly, and with no real boundaries of what they can and cannot achieve. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see one of the EU / TCW characters like them or Asajj Ventress show up in the live-action movies, I’m just not sure that the Nightsisters are the way forward….

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  5. Hey Viral, AMC Jedi Council mentioned that they used Star Wars 7 News for Episode VII news.

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    1. Super cool. I didn’t know that. Thanks for sharing. :)

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    2. Here is the part in the video where they mention it.

      link to youtube.com

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  6. If they are going to fly around like Anakin & co did in EPI-III they might as well shut down production right away. Not buying it, they want to mine the good stuff from EPIV-VI

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    1. actually, jedi were supposed to jump and bounce like space age samurai. It’s the stiff old-man fight in Episode IV that I want to get away from.

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    2. Screw that hopping around, ignoring physics nonsense. I want a lightsaber fight that feels REAL.

      Alec Guinness’ fight takes way too much crap from people.

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    3. Don’t forget that Luke did a Force Jump to get out of the Carbon Freezing pit. “Most impressive.” And people always forget that Sir Alec actually did a spin move in his fight (which I agree is much more realistic and a great Master vs. Master fight). I definitely don’t want the overly gymnastic moves of the prequels (especially twirling the lightsabers for no good reason), but a little flourish here and there wouldn’t be out of bounds.

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    4. The Alec Guinness fight was my favourite. It was simple and didn’t look over rehearsed so it felt the most real and authentic. It therefore actually had tension to it. When people reduce lightsaber fights to just being about the speed and the choreography, it melts my brain. When they started jumping around like a video game in the prequels it was just awful.

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    5. no the choreography was the only good thing about the prequels. it was amazing to watch.

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    6. The power of the Original Trilogy has blinded some of you.

      Because that Alec Guiness fight was B.A.D. It looked like a senior citizen fighting Rosie the Robot. Did they ever rotate their wrists? They certainly didn’t lift their heels off the ground.

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    7. Obi Wan wasn’t intending to defeat Vader. If he was he would have been faster. He was there to distract Vader. I admit the duel was a little slow. Luke vs Vader in the Cloud City would be my favorite duel overall. Qui-Gon / Obi Wan vs Maul was exciting but frankly way too fast. I hope the duels in the ST will lean more to the OT style duels. If there is going to be a big lightsaber battle, I still want it a little slower than the PT

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    8. For those who think the Ben vs Vader fight was “bad,” go watch some real Kendo fights. The Vader – Ben fight might not be flashy (except for a few moves by Ben where his “old” fighting style comes through), but it is realistic and is much more reflective of a master vs master fight than anything in the other films.

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  7. I say the video clip is indeed real & the guy who posted it is indeed fired.

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    1. Where did you get this info?

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  8. Looks like Cathar woman to me.

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    1. Is that like Catwoman eating a chargrilled burger & fries?

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  9. Just hope we don’t get so many spoilers & leaked tidbits that come Dec 2015 there is no point in watching the movie..but this is harmless enough- anyones guess if its real..

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    1. Umm, you are absolutely free to NOT READ said spoilers & leaked tidbits.
      I, for one, WILL READ each & every one I can get my beady little eyes on!

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  10. Villain looks like a cross between a nightsister (witches) and that one EU villain that I forgot his name. He wears a white mask that has a red marking on it. The villain also looks drunk. Haven’t watched the video yet but I will. :)

    God Bless and No Rude Replies Please

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    1. Didn’t Saren shoot him in the back?

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    1. THIS yup looks like a NightSister

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  11. I watched the video and it’s cool but is it from the SW set. Eeehhh, I dont think so.

    God Bless (and no rude replies please)

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    1. It is not from the set, it is a practice video, if it is real of course.

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  12. link to image.noelshack.com

    Max Von Sydow behind the makeup?

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    1. Unlikely. I don’t think Sydow would strike such a female-like pose. Looks more like a female cosplayer.

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    2. A female coplayer would smell profusely and would be morbidly obese.

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    3. Lupita perhaps….They where still casting a second lead female role. I think its a villain.

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  13. The harness stunt stuff could be legit, as Abrams loves using this SPX technique in his movies.

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  14. Headline shouldn’t really say ‘Spoilers’, but ‘Rumours’ instead.

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    1. I used spoiler mainly because of the image with the creature. It’s pretty spoilerish if legit.

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  15. And if episode VII occur after the Vong war and the EU luke would be exiled like the expanded universe.

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    1. The Vong war never happened. Luke was never exiled. Get used to it.

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  16. Considering how much is done in post, none of this was unbelievable or revealed anything. If the photo is from the set, it may be like the fur suit version of Jabba, a placeholder for actors to interact with. As for the video… I don’t see anything revealed by that other than that someone might fly from being hit… which seems to happen a lot in the prequels (and any action movies nowadays).

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    1. Alls I know is this movie had better have those 2 “Holy Crap!!” moments that every Star Wars movie has had to date: IV-Dogfight & The Battle Of Yavin/V-The Battle Of Hoth & Asteroid Field Chase/etc., etc., amirite?

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    2. lol what a load of crap. Nobody sat down 35 years ago saying, what 2 things can we put in each film that make the audience go holy crap

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  17. it is maybe a yuuzhan vong or night sister since it takes place 30 to 40 years after return of the jedi, so I am assuming if they take the expanded universe approach like they should then Chewbacca will be dead like he is supposed to be and also the only child of the solos will be Jaina, so yeah it sounds like the right approach Is going to happened with Peter Mayhew playing another wookie like Lowbacca or Chewbacca son?

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    1. the mention of night sister just reminded me: what in the heck is going on regarding Lupita Nyong? Is she still around London?

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    2. I bet she is casted as the second female lead for Nightsister or some Female villain…

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    3. Well with all this talk about Nightsisters, I’m still holding out hope that she’ll end up playing Ventress on the big screen! ^_^

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  18. Actually, I think the picture is legit. It looks like a cross between an orc (Lord of the Rings) and a Na’vi (Avatar,) two movies Disney desperately wish they had. Disney can’t think on their own anymore. They either buy out creativity or plagerize it.

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    1. J.J. Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan are the ones that wrote EP VII, you goof. Not Disney. So shut up, haha!

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    2. They’re both employed by Disney who is running the show last time I checked. Abrams and Kasdan are only fulfilling the status quo. Or did you not realize that artists don’t have complete creative freedom?

      You are the goof, methinks.

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    3. Do you really think that they’re just going to release some piece of crap movie to make money? No, I’m almost positive that they are trying to make up for the horrible job Lucas did on the prequels. Star Wars, for one was my childhood. They’ve said multiple times that they realize how much SW means to people. I’m sure that they did their best to create an original plot that will surprise us all. Have some faith. Its so annoying seeing all the negativity from people on this site. Are you that negative about everything?

      Abrams is a creative wizard. I don’t think he’s ever released a movie that was absolute garbage. The Star Trek reboot was great, so have some faith. You sound like some miserable middle aged man with nothing better to do than to hate on something that most people look forward to. Go read a book, you goof.

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    4. “Disney can’t think on their own anymore.”

      Um, Disney (as in Walt) has been gone for a long time now. Disney (as in the corporation) has always done films based on classic fairy tales. Oh, and SW wasn’t Walt Disney’s idea, obviously. So anything they do in that front won’t really be “their own”, but based on Lucas’s creativity.

      Finally, a corporation is not a human being, it does not think. So saying that the Disney corp. is not “thinking on their own” isn’t exactly smart thinking either.

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    5. @anon 11:09: if you’re the dude that wrote the top article you should probably go somewhere else. The nightsisters and the yuuzhan vong have been described in books since before the LOTR movies started shooting, and long before “Avatar” was even planned. Calm down dude

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    6. did the books describe the vongs as having blue skin green stripes on their faces and orc-like ears? Because artistic representations of vongs in the past definately don’t look like this.

      @Anon 6:06, “abrams is a creative genius?” Yeah, if you consider f’ing with Roddenberry’s vision a creative move. Personally I thought “Into Darkness” was pretty bad…. (but there were no mention of midi-chlorians, so of course you wouldn’t be hating on it.)

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    7. IT’s Nei Rin….

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    8. how dare you take the name of Disney in vain!!! >:(

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  19. The fact that Disney didn’t ask to take this down from the internet tells me it’s a fake.

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  20. That is definitely a Vong in the second picture, or something similar to it, but I doubt its a Vong. I’m not sure about the video however. Aren’t the Vong supposed to be super strong?

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    1. The Vong do definitely NOT exist anymore.

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    2. To me, the Vong are a weak replacement for the Imperial/Sith troops from the Old Republic and OT eras. It just doesn’t feel like Star Wars and feels more like generic sci-fi without them to me. The Empire cannot be replaced.

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  21. The video is a practice thing, look at the pictures of mark hamil training with his lightsaber while filming star wars 4.

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  22. Looks to be the stuntperson was supposed to be struck by a weapon with a forcefield, and deflected backwards?

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  23. The robes and makeup seen in the photo definitely resembles a nightsister….. also remember that’s all canon.

    The video could be legit, stunt practice for a showdown between Ridley’s character and a nightsister who is played by an unannounced female cast member.

    If real looks cool and an interesting direction for episode VII

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  24. How is nobody seeing this? Look at the picture again, all of you…and tell me that is NOT the Emperorer on the right side. You have to look closely. Everyones first reaction is to look at the gigantic thing in the middle that is distracting us…look closer. Does nobody see his hood and face?? Its so friggin obvious to me.

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    1. link to psych.usyd.edu.au

      Look its a Nightsister! Look it’s the Emperor!
      Lol, someone is fucking with us royally.

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  25. If this is an alien based on the Yuuzhan vong ,just think about it for a second. It’s kinda logical.

    OT- Armoured stormtroopers.
    PT- A droid army
    ST- An army organic aliens raging a technological holocaust throughout the galaxy?

    Would be kinda cool, and the Yuuzhan vong wars have some of the most exiting stories I’ve read in the sweu. If they could cut it down to a trilogy ( Vector prime-Star by star- The unifying force) and kinda make it their own stuff that would be great. I wouldn’t mind if that was a costume for a nightsister though, but I would really love to see a fight not only for freedom, but for survival of the entire galaxy and its species. A war of stars and the plants surrounding them.

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    1. According to several reports over the years – The Vong are one of the most detested EU creations ever…

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    2. I don’t even know anything about the EU (except what I seen on Wookiepedia), and I already hate them!

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  26. The photo looks like gauzy robes and ultraviolet face-paint, like the fashion of the gang-members in Batman Forever. If it is from EP7, it’s a fairly cheap-looking costume – a nonspeaking background character, maybe in a underworld drinking hole?

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    1. That effect may just be from colored lights, a filter, or digital manipulation after the fact. This guy has videos on vimeo [including an obviously fan made ep7 teaser "test" and a fake teaser for a Supergirl movie - he also has Quinlan Vos as his picture, so he is a Star Wars fan] that are overproduced similar to that picture. So I’m guessing that if this is legit he was just messing around with effects while shooting his costume.

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    2. It’d be funny if it was an extra, lol.

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  27. Daisy’s body doubles so far: Blioux Kirkby, Hannah Levitt-Collins and Chloe Bruce.

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  28. ;amazing reporting as always Viral,great stuff!

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  29. Here is a link to Rey-Phillip Vivas Santos’s vimeo account. He has a very fake and overproduced “test” teaser to ep7, and a fake trailer for Amber Heard as Supergirl. Notice he has Quinlan Vos as his pic. link to vimeo.com

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  30. THE VIDEO DOES NOT REMIND ME THE OT AT ALL

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    1. First off… Caps? Why?
      Secondly, looks pretty similar to the action in the ol’ Boba Fett getting a smack in the back and flying to his doom scene to me.

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  31. It’s Lady GaGa!

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  32. A screeching Harpy landing flat on her face.

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  33. I am terrified for those people who complain and want the film to be like the OT. Its not going to be. It’s going to be something new. It will be both similar to the OT and PT, mostly OT, and so many people who complain about the prequels and already complain,
    Anonoymous 5:56 PM
    THE VIDEO DOES NOT REMIND ME THE OT AT ALL
    Anyone with this attitude have already ruined this movie for themselves, no matter how good this film is you are going to complain.

    On the topic of the picture, that is not a night sister. The night sisters were wiped out by the Separatists in the CW. The only one to survived that was the Night Mother, who was in the final season killed by, the one and only, Jar Jar Binks. Ventris is part of that race but she doesn’t look anything like that. This is a Vong. If this is real This frightens me since this is not a story I personally would like to see. (Unless it is done very well.) This could be an extra in the film giving a nod to the EU, but if the EU is not canon anymore using the Vong wouldn’t make any sense since the storyline is one of the weaker story arcs of the EU.

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    1. Talzin wasn’t killed. She disappeared. And I see nothing in that pic that makes me think of the Vong. I don’t remember them wearing draping robes, and I don’t see the facial structure of Vong there. All I see is someone with Maul-like makeup in long draping robes.

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    2. Asajj Ventress or Talzin could have rebuilt the Nightsisters over the years. Besides, the Nightsisters are Canon while the Vong are Legends, so I see no reason for them to bring in the Vong and confuse people over continuity. And who says the Vong would be exactly like the books anyway?

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  34. I havent read any of the novels like most of you, but from googling an image of nightsisters, the face paint and robes seem very similar. Not to mention them being witvhesjust seems so foreign to star wars, something Luke has never faced. I had the idea in my head that maybe they would either accidently or purposely conjur up an old dark lord through their witchcraft too. All very dark and menacing. Excitement!

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  35. “Rey-Phillip Santos”, former episode 7 crew member.

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    1. According to some of of Rey’s friends I emailed on facebook he’s actually friends with Ray Park from back the WuShu days and works for Lexa Doig to as an assistant for events. He his daughter running all his social media sites who apparently must be jelly or bitter.

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  36. Obiwan doesn’t have a biracial daughter: his daughter is Ashoka Tano, the only Jedi to survive order 66.

    Ashoka turns to the dark side, being Anakin’s apprentice. That’s the big surprise and the full circle.

    The person who did Ashoka’s voice was astonished at Ashoka’s future . . .

    That’s why the clone wars are now canon.

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    1. What on Earth are you talking about?

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  37. That darkside photo was probably from a different film he must have done that has nothing to do with Star Wars. It just so happens it has that nightsister look.

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  38. The villains are Nightsisters and Sith Witches and their look is based on Iain McCaig’s sketches done for the prequels. This is official. Trust me.

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  39. Nightsisters in the sequel trilogy? Then I’m out.

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    1. It’ll be something you probably have never seen in your life so just please watch the damn movie and make your judgments afterwards instead of being ignorant about it?

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    2. Are you kidding? Nightsisters would awesome!

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  40. What about the Sith Witch picture? Do you think that’s the real deal? Maybe the new villain(s) have like an evolution process or something. We shall see in 2015.

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  41. why we haven´t seen those since the phantom menace? it´s been 55-60 years, yet today the sisters and witches just felt it´s the right weather to show up? :-)

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    1. You do know that the night sisters were part of a huge story arc in TCW that involved count dooku, palpatine, and even Darth maul right? They have already come back so it makes sense that they would be in the new movie. However, I do not believe that that is a pic. of a night sister.

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  42. I said the guy should be fired for leaking info, looks like he was. His daughter put up the photos, give me a break. You got your five minutes of fame, now go clean the toilets.

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    1. Are you an Elliott Rodger’s clone? The dude didn’t leak it Elliott’s clone lol.

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  43. That so called Nightsisters photo looks like something I’d see at Burning man not in a Star Wars movie…… I hope it’s just a crappy photo and the real costume/character is much more interesting.

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    1. STAND IN for a digital Night Sister maybe?

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  44. If the night sisters are the new villains of the trilogy, fuck it, I’m not gonna watch it.

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  45. What happened to that photo from the Episode 7 set?

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    1. Lucasfilm have been sending out some angry emails I think ;)

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    2. Well, I guess that could indicate which leaked pics are real, and which aren’t.

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    3. Yes, I agree ANON 8:04.
      The Pinewood set pic has been removed, and yet the # DARKSIDE pic remains.
      In the words, of Obi-Wan Kenobi…”Very interesting.”

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    4. Do you think lucas film/disney/ bad robot removed it/ had it removed? And what could you see on the pic, havent seen it, was too late.

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    5. It looked like some random Tatooine stuff, a door way similar to that of Anakin’s/Obi Wan’s old houses, and a tent… looked tuskan raider-ish. The doorway was part of an incomplete structure… so probably for a close up shot. There was some stuff on the left… looked like racks of some kind of junk. You honestly didn’t miss much, I’m sure we’ll be seeing some way cooler stuff soon.

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    6. Whoever snapped the shot took it from what looks like the interior of a pick up truck… so they might have incriminated themselves haha.

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    7. Google cache is a wonderful tool…

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    8. @aras thanks, mate. But do you think i can find it anywhere? I just tried google catch, didnt work.

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    9. Oh wait, i just found the pic on a forum!

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    10. My Force sense say its Adam Driver.

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    11. @anon 12.05 you mean the guy in the photo? or the person who took the pic? I’m pretty sure the pic was taken in AD, and he wasnt there, or at least not that we know of.

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  46. the darkside person looks like a togruta.

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  47. Feel really bad for rey, cant believe his daughter would actually do that. He must be really pissed lol

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  48. This whole thing reminds me of the SITH WITCH MAQUETTE Story that was bouncing around before the PHANTOM MENACE. Anybody remember that whole fiasco?

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    1. We all thought Sith Witches were gonna be in TPM …now we know that didnt happen. Could this be a total RED HERRING

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  49. Hey, Viral Hide..

    1.NEI RIN picture link to starwars.wikia.com
    2.TALZIN picture link to starwars.wikia.com
    3.ASSAJJ VENTRESS picture link to starwars.wikia.com

    The pointed ears, face point to the direction of either VENTRESS or NEI RIN. There is a good bet that Lupita Nyong is being casted as the second female lead.

    SO what’s cannon of the three? TALZIN and VENTRESS yup that’s right clone wars is cannon.

    images of ventress and Lupita, so very similar in looks. Why I think Ventress is best bet, is because they already have her at Disney in the star wars section. She is not only a Sith but also a Bounty Hunter. She parted away from Dooku and the Sith to go on her own, so she could have gone into her second profession as Bounty Hunter over the 30+ years since the clone wars.

    Lupita & Ventress picture link to itsblackcurrent.com

    NEI RIN is EU, and since they killed the EU. They’ll use hardly any of the EU, but perhaps some ideas and make it their own. Since they said EP 7 is completely original.

    But remember that video JJ put out about the Stranger? Still think that has to do with Star wars? Well perhaps..There was a cartoon series about ewoks and them fighting this Sith like being called the Stranger.

    Also let us assume that the ancient fear is working title, so whats it mean? Either Darth Plaegus the wise or some new villain.

    Sum it all up. We got a Master and a Apprentice but who are they? If it is TALZIN or some other night sister, then they’re the Master. And if Adam Driver is the villain which I am not sure he is, he’ll be the Apprentice. But lets look at another direction. The second female lead, rumor to be Lupita and if she is it. Is she the Villain? If so she’ll be perhaps Ventress and she won’t be an apprentice shes got 30 plus years under her belt. Then who is her apprentice?

    Cheers!

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  50. Why would it be ventress? She’d be really old and frail/ and because JJ abrams.

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    1. Dathomirians could age differently than humans.

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    2. I don’t think we’ll see any TCW characters in the movie, I’m pretty much 100% certain that anyone who isn’t the Big 3/chewie/the droids will be new characters. TCW characters were kinda boring anyway, why would we want any of those in the new films? Lets get some creative characters plz.

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    3. “TCW characters were kinda boring anyway”

      That is your opinion. There are many fans who would love a TCW character or two. Some would even feel a little cheated if there weren’t at least a nod to it. This is a chance for the entire canon to be linked together. It just needs to be done in a way that you don’t have to have seen TCW in order to enjoy the film. The fact that the characters from the OT and the ST likely don’t know of any TCW characters that may be used would help to establish them to new audiences.

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    4. Ventress kinda old, yes. but so was Palpy.

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    5. Why would it be Ventress? Because that’s all people know or can imagine right now.

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    6. Why wouldn’t we see any TCW characters? For the past 10 years, the only starwars related thing to come out was TCW! Plus the TCW characters would appeal to the younger audiance who know these characters better than they know the OT ones!

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  51. Could the guy have taken a worse picture? I mean, if I took that I’d probably have deleted it and tried again.

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  52. THIS IS A FAKE! It’s a Reaper from Blade 2.

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  53. Reaper indeed.

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  54. Thats what I’m thinking, I think its was stolen from Santos’s original Blade 2 photos by some fan and tagged it #Darkside. Its a Reaper.

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    1. What the heck are you talking about? What Blade 2 cut are you watching?!

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  55. If the darkside pic is legit, why hasn’t it been taken down yet? The only reason I could think of would be that they don’t want it confirmed because it would be a huge spoiler.

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    1. Actually the image was removed from the place where it leaked from.

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