Thursday, June 12, 2014

SPECULATION: Will “Mara Jade” Be In Star Wars: Episode 7?

In 1991 Timothy Zahn published “Heir to the Empire” the first Star Wars work to further the adventures of Luke, Han, and Leia in the era after Episode VI. It was met with enthusiasm and excitement and quickly became a fan favorite, and New York Times Best Seller, not only for renewing interest in our galaxy far, far away but for introducing the fanbase to a new character named “Mara Jade.” So will Mara make her big screen debut in Episode VII? Jump aboard to find out . . .


Back on April 25th, 2014 StarWars.com released an Official Announcement about Star Wars canon moving forward:

In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will NOT tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. (Emphasis mine.)

With this one release, what everyone suspected became officially official — the Expanded Universe will be over-written. A collective gasp rang out as many die-hard EU fans “felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.” Yes, the EU as we knew it has died. This article is not the place to debate the pros or cons of such a decision as that war rages-on across the internets as I type. I will say this — Chewbacca LIVES!!! And for that I am most thankful!

So we know Chewie lives, but what about some of the other fan favorites that have emerged from the EU? What about “Jacen” and “Jaina Solo?” What about their little brother “Anakin?” What about “Ben Skywalker?” Or “Grand Admiral Thrawn?” What will become of Mara Jade? And therein lies the crux of this article — Will Mara Jade be in Star Wars: Episode VII?

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it, as the saying goes. Thus, before we look ahead let us look back at some Star Wars history to see if it sheds light on our present and future . . . 

A long time ago in a galaxy not so far away a young filmmaker named George Lucas made a little film called THX-1138. Oh, wait, wrong film. He, obviously, made Star Wars. Perhaps you heard of it? Anyway, Star Wars started out as one film, but George had so much material that he eventually broke it into 3 films. Many websites chronicle the history of this, but none are more thorough than The Secret History of Star Wars: 

Prevue: How many pages, do you recall? 

Lucas: A little over 200 pages. It was like a worm. I cut it in half and both halves got to be as long as the original.

Prevue: That’s about twice as long as most ordinary screenplays.

Lucas: Yes it is. Most screenplays run about 100 or 110 pages. That was my second screenplay. I decided it was too long. It covered too much material, and what was in the script wasn’t really filled out enough. It was too episodic and too fragmented. So I took the screenplay and divided it into three stories, and rewrote the first one.

As Star Wars became insanely successful George began talking about as many as twelve films! 

There is an element of some mystery surrounding the fourth “trilogy” that was once attached to the Star Wars. Lucas today denies that he had any plans or story for the third trilogy (Episodes VII-IX), which isn’t the case, but we can do one better: what was the story for Episodes X, XI, and XII?

Am I crazy? If you’ve read Secret History of Star Wars you will know what I am referring to–in early 1978, it was announced in Time that there were twelve Star Wars films in the franchise. This isn’t a typo; Lucasfilm referenced them frequently in publications such as Bantha Tracks from 1978 to 1980, and Lucas himself even addresses them in the May 1980 issue, stating he had limited the series to nine films instead.

The twelve episode saga was backed-up by Dale Pollock who, while researching Lucas for his biography, was shown the outlines for the infamous twelve episodes.

This is what Pollock had to say about the outlines:

“It was originally a 12-part saga,” Pollock told TheWrap. “The three most exciting stories were 7, 8 and 9. They had propulsive action, really interesting new worlds, new characters. I remember thinking, ‘I want to see these 3 movies.’” 

And, all things being equal, Pollock and the rest of the world will see those films! Whether or not there will be nine or twelve is a matter for another time and perhaps article. For now, we want to know — What did George intend for Episodes VII, VIII & IX, after all the scripts are based on his treatments?

In 1983 George described the thematic structure of the Sequel Trilogy like this:

“The sequel focuses mainly on Luke, and Lucas says Mark Hamill will have first crack at the part if he is old enough. “If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves,” Lucas says, “Star Wars is more about personal growth and self-realisation, and the third deal with moral and philosophical problems. In Star Wars, there is a very clear line drawn between good and evil. Eventually you have to face the fact that good and evil aren’t that clear-cut and the real issue is trying to understand the difference. The sequel is about Jedi knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned.” [Denise Worrell, Icons:Intimate Portraits p. 186]

In Starlog magazine, Issue 127, February 1988, George is interviewed and asked the following question:

Starlog: Why didn’t you give Luke a girl?

Lucas: You haven’t seen the last three yet.

Clearly this is a reference to his intention to give Luke Skywalker a female companion. I say “companion” because even George wasn’t sure anyone would be “married” in Star Wars. Again, from Worrell’s Icons

“In the sequel Luke would be a sixty-year-old Jedi knight. Han Solo and Leia would be together, although Lucas says, “They might be married, or not. We have never actually discussed marriage in this galaxy. I don’t even know if it exists yet. Who knows what relationship they will have? I mean, they’re together, let’s put it that way.” 

In the same issue of Starlog we read:

Luke would have a romantic relationship with a female love interest. Bill Warren. “George Lucas: Father of the Force”. Starlog #127, February 1988.

We know from the Prequels that Jedi were forbidden from love and marriage and kids. But we all saw how that turned out for the “fighting monks.” And of course Luke is pretty much free to re-build the Jedi Order in his image, begging many questions like: Can Jedi be married (if such a thing exists)? Can they have children? How many Padawans can they train? When does training begin? And so on and so forth. 

Let us focus on the concept of marriage here for a second. When George gave that interview to Starlog magazine he was still pretty fresh off his devastating divorce in 1983. It is understandable that he would be pretty ambivalent at best and bitter at worst toward the institution of marriage, not even to mention the fact that it’s mired in Earthly traditions that Lucas’ humans probably don’t adhere to. At the time, his hero, his avatar, Luke Skywalker perhaps never found love in his mind. But now George is happily married, one would presume, and it seems logical that Luke, too, could find love. We all know that as Jedi Master his “passing on what he has learned” has nothing to do with familial ties and everything to do with those potential Jedi strong in the Force, but wouldn’t it make sense for Luke to pro-create as a way to re-build the Jedi Order and pass on what he has learned? So does Luke Skywalker have a mate? 

In answer to that question I’ll simply present some facts and RUMORS, and let you decide.

The first, and perhaps most telling piece of evidence is an article that Viral Hide posted back on April 11th, 2014 — Karen Gillan cut her RED HAIR for Guardians of the Galaxy and this is what she had to say about it:

Was it just very liberating to shave your head, or did you have any moments of tears while they were doing it? 

No, I was laughing hysterically.  It really hit me when I woke up the next morning.  That’s when I was like, “Oh, my god, where’s my hair?!”  But also, everyone kept me in good spirit.  Everyone was laughing and telling jokes.  Marvel are the best company to work for, they really are.  They treat you really well.  They made my hair into the most incredible well-made wig and they gave it to the Star Wars people.  It’s just so funny to think that my hair is made into a wig, next to all these Star Wars monster heads in a warehouse.  I thought that was really funny.

I posted this bit in the Darth Plagueis article, but it also applies here as well since the entertainment industry is all about synergy:

“Hasbro has been directed by Lucasfilm, Ltd. to avoid the Expanded Universe like the plague. Not only is it next to impossible that we’ll see a brand new Expanded Universe figure in the near future, older and hard to find figures will NEVER see re-release either. 

Hasbro said, and I quote, to “not expect to ever see Jaina Solo or Jacen Solo or any other older Comic Packs figure re-released in any way to get out to collectors.”

However, the one figure from the EU — Plagueis is CANON — that was released as part of the current “Black Series” is Mara Jade as seen here:
  


According to a source, who may or may not be legit, this was done because she WILL be in Episode VII and all other EU figures were pulled because of two reasons — they’re either obsolete as the EU is over-written or they will be incorporated into the saga and Disney attempts to keep it a surprise. It seems to us, quite obvious, that if they continue to authorize the release of certain figures then it is because Disney/LFL intends them to become canon. However, note that the figure released is a young version of Jade, the reason for which will become apparent later.


A while ago there were some rumblings that Disney could incorporate characters from the EU as “templates,” for lack of a better description, but give them different names. We’ve also received contradictory tips that some of the EU characters that Disney incorporates WILL KEEP their names. This is welcome news as several of the important EU characters like Mara Jade, the Solo twins and Ben Skywalker are endeared favourites. While I agree that changing a lot of EU characters will be necessary if only to divorce the movies from the EU and not have to stick to the characters that were created therein, in the case of Mara Jade it doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t make sense that they would keep her red hair for instance. Why not change it? It also doesn’t make sense to make a figure for her if you’re going to change her name. In my opinion I think Mara Jade will be one of the only EU characters Disney keeps as an almost perfect 1 to 1 translation. In this case Mara has too much history and too many devoted fans for them to just change-her-up for the sake of changing-her-up. By keeping her intact they don’t really have to “introduce” her. 


And speaking of “introductions” we’ve received contradictory rumors from a couple different sources. Of course, these rumors should be taken with a hearty dose of salt at this stage and we’re all just trying to get the facts straight. With that in mind, the original report was that Mara Jade would be appearing in Rebels and then Episode VII, but lately we’ve been hearing that she will be introduced in Episode VII before Rebels. According to this source the actress who will be playing Mara Jade is supposed to be a BIG surprise and in fact has to cover up when coming and going from the sets so as NOT to be identified or recognized. Along this same theme the actress in question cannot and will not discuss being involved with Episode VII at all until its release in December 2015. Thus, it is very likely Disney will make no mention of her or Jade until they are absolutely forced to via a TMZ leak or something.

As if all these rumblings, these little disturbances in the Force weren’t enough to pique your interest, I offer you this little tid-bit. As always take with more than a few grains of salt and a glass of your beverage of choice. Making Star Wars posted an article back in May about James Luceno’s CANON book — remember everything going forward, games, apps, comics, and books is canon now — called “Tarkin.” You’ll remember James Luceno’s name as he was tasked with writing the all-important “Darth Plagueis” novel. Anyway, here is the interesting part from the article:
Now to the most intriguing (and most irritatingly mysterious) thought of the day on this subject: a Mara Jade appearance in Tarkin. Tweeter Alex Rybak (AKA, @Chewbacca89) posted the opinion, “I think we will see Mara Jade in this book…” When I asked him what made him think that, he replied, “A mixture of gut feelings and the whisperings of someone involved in it.” (now if that doesn’t rile of Star Wars fan up, I don’t know what will). He went on to say, “Yea the person I talked to won’t confirm either, but the fact that it’s possible is exciting!”

That will be very interesting to watch as November 4th, the “Tarkin” release date, approaches. IF Jade is in the book, Jade is in the galaxy, meaning likely to appear in Star Wars: Episode VII as well as Star Wars: Rebels, although I can’t see Disney/LFL letting the cat out of the bag in a book versus their HUGE tentpole. Very, very unlikely . . . 

BUT, if all this isn’t enough to convince you, then I have to ask, Who is Domhnall Gleeson playing??? While everyone was talking about the rumors regarding Alex Pettyfer and Ryan Gosling, NO ONE saw ol’ Domhnall coming.


People were on the lookout for blondes while a ginger snuck in. Does it not make sense that IF his mother has RED HAIR a certain [Ben] Skywalker would also?


And speaking of ol’ red herself, who will wear the wig? The fan, as in fantasy, casting has centered around actresses like Gillian Anderson, Christina Hendricks, and Amy Yasbeck solely for their red locks, but a tip from February suggested that Sigourney Weaver had met with JJ about a possible role. This makes sense for two reasons, the wig and her age — she’s 64, which also happen to be her height — 6′ 4″. Just kidding, she’s only 6. Yet, Sigourney may just be too busy to do Star Wars since she has already signed on for Avatar 2-4, which is filming all at once.


In summation, I believe that Mara Jade will be in Episode VII mainly because it makes sense for the “family saga” and gives legitimacy to [Ben] Skywalker as Luke’s son. I don’t know who’s playing Jade, but apparently someone who isn’t a “normal” redhead as the actress in question requires a wig. But the biggest factor for me is quite simple — Mara Jade has EXISTED longer in the Star Wars universe than she hasn’t. Confusing, I know, let me explain. Mara Jade has been a fan-favorite for about 24 years!!! Star Wars only existed for a mere 14 years without her and Disney/LFL knows this. What do you believe?

173 comments

  1. No, I believe she won’t.

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    1. Silence your filthy mouth and don’t ruin it for the rest of us!!!

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  2. I really hope she will… she is a badass

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    1. She better be confirmed by day the trailer is released, or they’re be hell to pay.

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  3. Well written Echo-07. Love mara ! If she is in that would be awesome.

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  4. I guess it all lines up nicely but no thanks.

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  5. Mara Jade vs Darth (former) Caedus. That’s a fight I would love to see

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  6. No, she won’t, because George Lucas and J.J. Abrams don’t give a f*** about the EU (and they’re right in my opinion).

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    1. Yet they have both already drawn from that well, there are also articles about what George loved the most, like Alyaa Secure from comic to EP 3.
      Also watch the JJ Abrams sw 7 set video, the creature is from an Eu species.
      Eu will be a basis to draw from, Over stated this with introduction to the Lucasfilm deal. Some Eu sucks, some is Grand -just like parts of each individual episodes and trilogies. Some would have rather had Wookies in ROTJ some settle for Ewoks, while others hate the film. But don’t speak for people you don’t know.

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    2. Says the idiot who probably never read a good novel or comic in his life. You’re probably the sort who never reads and only waits for the movie based on the book to come out.

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    3. They never gave a f*** about the EU and look what we got, three shitty prequels and a new shitty seventh movie. And let’s not forget how Abrams basically destroyed the Star Trek universe…

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  7. Nice picture. She looks like Amy Pohler. Heh.

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  8. Lots of interesting rumors there and I’d agree it’s in Disney’s best interest.

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  9. Luke having a child will perfectly sum and signify that the old jedi order was wrong and that love is indeed good, and not to be suppressed because of fear and paranoia. However I don’t want any mara jade/relationship stuff with Luke as it would just drag down the plot. We have middle aged couple stuff with Han and Leia anyway. Maybe Luke’s partner could have died in childbirth like Padme. But I have a feeling that George wouldn’t allow Luke to have a child as he’s been stuck in the prequel garbage for so long and forgotten where the context is in the current timeline

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    1. I agree. Star Wars is best with little, but substantial romance . We leanred this from Episodes II and III.

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    2. Lighter romances and fewer women being choked, please.

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      1. You don’t object to men being choked?

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    3. She could get the Windu treatment, that is be in the movie and alive just with little screen time. The focus will be on the younger cast not Luke/Her. Having her however estabishes her without cutting into the screen time of others. From that they would create the abilty to flesh out the relationship between her and Luke however they want with the new novels etc to fit Disney’s new timeline that is undoubtedly coming.

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    4. More women being choked! EQUALITY

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    5. AnonymousJune 12, 2014 at 7:31 PM,

      Lucas’s idea of Jedi non-attachment is well grounded in real life Eastern spiritual philosophies. And that’s got nothing to do with “love”, actually, but everything to do with suffering.

      But since you obviously do not know the first thing about this, it would seem, you’d do well to refrain yourself from commenting on it any further.

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    6. To the anon above… The eastern philosophy of the first three films is trumped by the thermatic theme of the entire trilogy which is best concluded with Luke having to now be a father himself. This is what’s best for the franchise as a whole, not doing so would be like doing a last minute rewrite just because lucas was upset after his divorce but now he’s now remarried to a new woman now, and Luke has always been an analogy of his life.

      But since you obviously do not know the first thing about this, it would seem, you’d do well to refrain yourself from commenting on it any further.

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  10. Wow! Very good article, Echo-07!

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    1. Yes, very good as always Echo-07. You should write another speculative piece about Luke himself, and whether he is the head-Master at Jedi School or a hermit like old Ben.

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  11. Dude, enough. SHE WILL NOT BE IN EPISODE 7. It is okay that there is no news to talk about right now.

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    1. How do you know that?

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    2. Really, how do you know she wont? Did somebody tell you that? Who is your source?

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    3. No one has to. She didn’t exist in Lucas’s outline, cuz she was a Zahn character. I guess I can’t say that it’s impossible for them to insert Mara, Knowing JJ and OT Lucas, I’m like 99.99999% sure she won’t be in the film.

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    4. you’re 99.9999999% sure she will not be in the movie. So you know exactly how the movie goes and what characters are in it or not? So can you tell us all who is in the movie and who is not?
      for all we know fucking Jar Jar could be in it. You cannot say “this person will not be in it” based on your interpretation of these events. That is you’re opinion. While it is probable that she wont be in the movies, we cannot necessarily rule her out.

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    5. But they did a rewrite of the Arndt script which was said to be based on Lucas’ treatment. JJ likes to please fans, it would be smart of him to include her.

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    6. Luke may have a wife, but I can almost guarantee her name will not be Mara Jade. They’re only using EU characters as foundations for brand new characters. That is known fact. It’s been said by officials.

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    7. And if a Mara Jade-like character is in the sequel trilogy, I’m pretty certain she won’t have red hair/black leather jumpsuit, ect. Too similar to Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow. Disney wouldn’t want to risk the confusion.

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    8. My assumption is based on JJ’s previous work, and just the kind of guy he is in general (hipster/mac enthusiast/ socialite). I don’t think he sat around reading Zahn novels or playing 90′s SW games. If he inserts characters that weren’t in the outline then believe me, it won’t be one that someone besides Lucas, himself, or Kasdan envisioned.

      “JJ likes to please fans” well… what about those who don’t want Mara Jade to be a character? I think a lot of us want surprises and something fresh, not recreations of EU novels. These films shouldn’t be like capcom games where they take characters from different franchises and insert them into others, I want something more creative than that… I don’t think I’m alone in thinking this way.

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    9. Excuse me, what it’s said by officials is “the universe fans know is changing”, which doesn’t mean it’s rejected at all. Stop talking like you have more information than the others because right now everything is ambiguous. We can’t cocnfirm anything, but everything this article explains makes perfect sense.

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    10. Well, if Mara Jade is in it, why not Kyle Katarn? why not Jacen or Jana or Ben or Thrawn or the Vong or any of the other EU characters? Fans will be asking these questions if they pick and choose instead of just putting the EU on the shelf and using it as an influence rather than a source. I’m not claiming that I have more information about anything, I’m merely referencing passed articles on this very site saying that the Lucasfilm Story Group has decided to take the EU out of the picture and start anew.

      You’re excused

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    11. Dave Filoni and the Press release stated that they would be mining Legends for years to come. Did you read the whole press release?

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    12. I really doubt that Mara Jade will be a character in EP VII. I do hope that Luke has a wife and Jedi children though simply because they were interesting in the EU and would make interesting templates.

      - G

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    13. Timothy Zahn talked a lot with Lucas before writing the Thrawn trilogy. JJ Abrams have been seen meeting with Zahn. Hope to see Jade in the new movie:)

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    14. AnonymousJune 12, 2014 at 11:48 PM
      Yes, I read the whole press release. That in no way suggests that they’ll be pulling full characters, stories or plot details from the EU. It’d be so much easier and interesting for the general audience if they chose to build on a renewed Star Wars universe with new material for the next 40 years. Star Wars has never been a novel-based movie franchise and I don’t believe it ever will be. The EU and the SWU are two completely different franchises now. I don’t like it any more than you do, but it’s just the way things are. We all have to get over it no matter how much we’d like to see EU characters and story arcs carried over to the big screen.

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    15. To the Mara Jade doubters:

      Always with you what can’t be done. That is why you fail. :P

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    16. To Mara Jade Enthusaists:
      LIVE IN THE NOW

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  12. My theory is that Mara Jade will be Gwendoline Christie. It has been mentioned that she is about the same height as Sigourney Weaver although younger. They would want a younger actress to be able to do all of the physical stunts. Domhnall Gleeson could easily pass as the son of Gwendoline and Mark Hamill. The twist could be that shortly after the ‘Ben Skywalker’ character is born, Mara in her mid thirties (Gwendoline’s current age) she would be killed or thought to be killed in a flashback. Luke is left to raise Ben on his on Tatooine as a hermit. Thus explains why Domhall was sitting next to Mark in the readthough. The revelation could be that Mara was brought back to life by Asajj Ventress, played by Lupita Nyong’o, who also was also brought back to life by ‘the ancient fear’. They are both in an eternally in the age that they were when they died, explaining why both actresses are in their thirties versus seventies, as sith witches.

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    1. This isn’t even good fan fiction.

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    2. Gwendoline Christie is 6’3. Sigourney is 6. Not even close to the same height.

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    3. I think Gwendoline is playing a wookiee, but Mara Jade is possible and I think Lupita is playing Ventress also. But Watch us be all wrong!

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    4. Hoping Gwendoline will be a nighsister or a Yuuzhan Vongish kinda character or something like that.

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  13. It’s certainly possible that Mara could be in the new films. Given the fact that they’re discarding the existing EU, though, I would tend to figure that if they do create a version of Mara for the ST, her backstory will probably be simplified over what it was in the books, if only for the sake of not having to do a lot of exposition about her in the movie – which they would have to do if they kept her EU backstory, because plenty of moviegoers won’t have read the books or have the first clue as to who Mara Jade is.

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  14. Domhnall Gleeson is playing Mara Jade. They cast a male actor for the role to throw you off. His latest pics show him with long hair but it isn’t a wig. The wig has a much larger role in the film than playing Mara’s hair. Lets just say Jabba’s bloodline didn’t end with him when he died. Sisterrrr. He has a twin sisterrrr. #spaceslugswithredhair

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    1. and I must say, you guys will be blown away by the wig’s performance in this film!

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    2. “And, the Oscar for Best Performance of a Hairpiece in a Major Motion Picture goes to…”

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  15. I would love for Mara Jade to be in it. I know a ton of people hate the expanded universe and I do not get it. There was some amazing stories in the expanded universe and Mara Jade is a great product of it.

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  16. Interesting. She was always my favorite EU character so I hope it’s true.

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  17. This totally takes care of any disputes:
    link to m.imgur.com

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  18. That Figure of her looks like Star Wars Rebels…That mean shes going to be in that series? And made canon? Because as for now she is not canon.

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  19. figure as in the action figure..

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  20. why are we still going on about this? The EU is dead and so is Mara Jade. Move on and look forward to what we have ahead. It’s a well written article, but what a waste of time. Many things have changed since the quotes you mention from the 1980′s, not to mention the fact that it is pretty clear this new film is barely about Luke at all. which is unfortunate.

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    1. You sure about that? They ditched the last writer/director because he wrote the script about their children which leads me to believe that Luke, Lea, Han will have a big role in Episode VII.

      - G

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    2. ^This, as of now, has yet to be confirmed. The fact that Boyega and Ridley are filming everywhere actually tells me that they, not the so-called “Big 3″ are the main characters of this film.

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    3. they’ve made Han Solo the star, amongst the older cast members. Pretty lame that because he had the most successful career as an actor, they decided to increase the importance of his character.

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  21. Darth Plagueis was never EU – Darth Plagueis was mentioned in REVENGE OF THE SITH (Chancellor Palpatine / Opera Scene) *before* the “Darth Plagueis novel was written.

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    1. Yes, but the Darth Plagueis novel is EU

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    2. Yes, but Darth Plagueis the character isn’t.

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  22. The picture in this article of Mara Jade with the hood looks like it was modeled after Kate Beckinsale. Probably my favorite depiction yet. I would love to see Mara Jade in the ST. She is the best EU character hands down IMO and if they do any mining of the EU whatsoever I can’t imagine not including Jade. So here’s to hoping… I do hope they got an actress with a softer and more typically feminine facial structure to play her if she is in it. Nothing against great actresses like Weaver or Christie, but I always pictured Mara Jade looking more like the picture I referenced earlier in this comment, or on the “Choices of One” cover by Zahn (the one with the Star Destroyer and Stormtrooper army in the background). I think it would be cool to have an “Emperor’s Hand” spin-off movie if nothing else, regardless of whether or not she’s in the ST.

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    1. Now there is someone who would be kickass as Mara Jade. Beckinsale has the action sequence chops and she would require a wig…. hmmmm.

      Maybe a little short for Jade though.

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    2. Yeah…Beckinsale is awesome…shes tough…easy on the eyes…and she’s a Brit, which seems to be in her favor when it comes to SW casting. However, I feel they would use a more age-appropriate actress for the ST. Beckinsale is about 15 years to young for the ST Jade and for an Emperor’s Hand Spin-off, you really need a young actress, 18 – early 20′s. However, a red-headed Beckinsale is the new mental image for Jade when I read her in the EU. Thanks Echo. :)

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    3. Beckinsale would be perfect

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    4. If Mara Jade is going to be Luke’s wife in VII, I’d prefer a woman in her 50s-60s play her. A much younger woman can play Mara in a standalone.

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    5. Older women for Mara jade what about Sigourney Weaver? She’s got the sci-fi action under her belt and would make a good fit for the character and is right age.

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  23. If she is in Episode VII she needs a spin-off.

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  24. The most likely reason for her to be EpV11 is if they are planning a spin-off movie of her when she was young. That would go down well with most fans and movie-goers.

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    1. I agree. As much talk as their has been about a Boba Fett and Han Solo spin-off movie, I think (and I may be speaking for myself) that most EU fans would want a Mara Jade spin-off. And given the popularity of heroines in movies as of late, I see Disney making this move. It would be cool to have her as a minor character in ep7…even if its just to substantiate offspring for Luke and then do an amazing spin-off film with a young Jade as the lead to flesh out her backstory. I can see the lines at Toys-R-Us already…young girls lining up to buy the next doll Disney “Princess” Line…First, there was Snow White and Cinderella…then Brave introduced a new kind of princess with Merida…then Anna and Elsa with Frozen…and now…a new “princess” with attitude and accessories like never before (except instead of a hairbrush she’s got a freakin’ lightsaber). Obviously, I’m joking a little, but the point is that Disney has a lot to gain from canonizing the Mara Jade character.

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    2. Forget the princess’s, the girls now have Malaficent(if spelt right), SW Mara Jade/Hera/Sabine/Han Solo’s Daughter…

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    3. Gone to the girls Star Wars has, hmmm? Yeeeeaaah.

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    4. Ariel Jade.

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    5. It’s about time Disney acknowledged girls, if you ask me.

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    6. Disney has always acknowledged girls, most of they’re movies are female related. Disney himself had two daughters.
      Princesses, love stories, have always been the main theme for the animated movies.

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  25. Would be interesting if she was in ep7.
    But let’s make one thing clear. Lucas never had 7, 8, & 9 clearly outlined. He has said numerous times that if he made the sequels, they would have to be made up from scratch. The ideas he did have for 7, 8, & 9 were put into ep6. Before he started to outline it in earnest, he thought he would have to go beyond ep6. Luke would have confronted Vader in 6 and then went to find his sister (not Leia at the time) and train her as a Jedi. Then in 9 they would have confronted the Emperor and destroyed the empire for good. However, Lucas discovered that he didn’t really have enough story and wanted to end the series with 6. That’s why he made Leia into the “Other” and dealt with Vader and the Emperor together. This stuff can be found on wookieepedia’s sequel page. link to starwars.wikia.com

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    1. That’s out-dated info, the outline Pollock read was after all that, and did go beyond the confrontation with the Emperor.

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    2. What Pollock said, as far as I know, was that he saw outlines for episodes 7-8-9 before the OT was completed, So he’s saying that “at the moment he read the stories” he thought they were great. But I don’t think I heard him say that those plots did not ended in Episode 6 and were set after ROTJ. I can be wrong, but I did not heard him saying that. One can understand what he said from different points of view.

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    3. All quoted in Wookieepedia:
      “In a 1997 issue of the Star Wars Insider, Lucas said “[The whole story has] six episodes….If I ever went beyond that, it would be something that was made up. I really don’t have any notion other than ‘Gee, it would be interesting to do Luke Skywalker later on.’ It wouldn’t be part of the main story, but a sequel to this thing.”

      “During ShoWest 2008, Lucas gave an interview where he mentioned the difference between “his world”, “the licensing world” and the “fans’ world”:
      Interviewer: “Do you think you’d have other people continue the Star Wars saga past Episode VI or turn some of the other material into films?”
      Lucas: “But there’s no story past Episode VI, there’s just no story. It’s a certain story about Anakin Skywalker and once Anakin Skywalker dies, that’s kind of the end of the story. There is no story about Luke Skywalker, I mean apart from the books. “”

      “Another noteworthy exchange between Lucas and an interviewer appeared in the May 2008 edition of Total Film magazine:
      TOTAL FILM: “Are you happy for new Star Wars tales to be told after you’re gone?”
      LUCAS: “I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn’t at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…” “

      As I said, there weren’t any stories after 6. The Sequels are made up from new ideas – though I wouldn’t doubt that there are things in them from unused ideas in the original drafts.

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    4. That’s because Lucas lied, how many times must we go over this? He wasn’t consistent with his storytelling. He goes back and forth as to what his plans are. He said there is nothing after VI because he didn’t want to make anymore movies, but they were written.

      We know the story continues after VI because pollock said in his description that there are “exciting new worlds”… well, there really weren’t any exciting new worlds in ROTJ… just a moon.

      If you guys will on faith accept everything George Lucas says to be true then your brain would melt down in the constant stream of contradictions.

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    5. “exciting new worlds” is the only thing that could be a real hint that he was talking about stories set after ROTJ. But you know that beside the forest moon of Endor, ROTJ had some lava planet in some drafts , before the final act was placed on a new Death Star.
      link to 31.media.tumblr.com

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  26. NO MARA JADE PLEASE

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  27. Yes Mara Jade please. :)

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  28. If she’s in Tarkin she will be canon, we just need to wait until November.

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  29. I’m sure Mara does not exist anymore and she will not appear in EP7, Rebels or anything else. And I’m just sick of the boring EU speculations.

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    1. The Expanded Universe is not boring. It is far superior to the films. It is the greatest work of fiction I have ever read. With Mara Jade or Jacen Solo, there is just no point to Star Wars. Those characters were the most amazing fictional characters in history. I don’t really mind if they keep the same stories — I would just like them to keep the same story. If Mara is not in this movie, then I’m not going to see it. If she’s not in the film, Star Wars is dead to me.

      And also, even if the films don’t continue with the EU, why can’t they keep the books going for those fans who have loved them all these years?

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  30. THE EU IS DEAD. DEAD! D E A D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IT!

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    1. But elements of the EU will still be USED. USED! U S E D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IT!!!!

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  31. One of the main problems with the prequels was the lack of connection with the EU. While they have said they are not tied to all of the EU, I’m guessing that they are referring mostly to Dark Empire and Yuuzhan Vong crap forward.

    The more of the EU they choose to include (except the Yuuzhan Vong crap , that shit ruined star wars) with EP7+ the better reaction there will be with the hardcore fans.

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    1. The Hardcorefans don’t accept the EU.

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    2. No, The hardcore fans accept the EU until they get something better. And Currently their isn’t anything else to fill in the gaps.

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    3. Correction: the hardcore fans will only accept the OT and diss everything else. These same haters don’t even consider the PT as canon.

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  32. Let’s see, we have word of Mara Jade in Tarkin, after Luceno delivers his manuscript, Filoni Weisman and kinberg saying that they will be mining the EU for years to come.
    Pablo Hidalgo and Leland chee would have given Lucas, Arndt, Qbrams and Kasdan
    characters that would fit into the new canon. Plus Hasbro knows which chaaracters sell. Also in the new canon everything counts. movies, TV Netflix books and comics.
    no more higher levels of canon. The Legends EU is now a pantry that the new canon can use.

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    1. ^THIS

      And even the hater of Mara Jade know she’s one of the top 10 most popular characters from the EU Legands… on a bad day. She sells product. Disney loves Iconic characters… and what could be better than Black Widow with a lightsaber. JJ also loves strong female characters based on Alias, Lost, and Fringe. She’s like cat nip to them…

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    2. Agree Anon 5:49,

      Haters will always hate.

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  33. “SPECULATION: Will “Mara Jade” be in Star Wars: Episode 7?”

    No, she won’t.

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  34. Doesn’t Tenel Ka have red hair. Perhaps that’s who the wig made from Karen Gillan’s hair is for?

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    1. There is about 20 strong female characters with red hair in Star Wars… though Mara Jadeis as popular as the next 19 combinde

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    2. But isn’t Abrams more likely to go for a largely unknown or even a completely new character, that may or may not be based on an existing EU character.
      That makes more sense than JJ opting for a well known SW character like Jade or Ventress or someone of that ilk.

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  35. What if the Boba Fett and Han Solo movie are one in together?
    Spin-offs
    1.SW: Underworld (Boba fett/Han solo) Since we’re not getting the tv series.
    2.Yoda
    3.Red 5
    4.Darth Plaguis
    5.Knights of the old republic
    6.Obi-wan (Set between 3-4)
    7.Ahsoka Tano
    8.?

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    1. What if Disney will throw you a curve ball and there will be NO Boba Fett movie?

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    2. trust me the first standalone is based on Boba Fett Either if its mixed in with another character.

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  36. The EU is not canon but will always be a source of frustration for some fans as characters and storylines continue to be available for mining by Lucasfilm.

    This “problem” will NEVER go away. Have a nice day. :o)

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  37. The door for the possibility of this being true seems to be open at the very least.

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  38. Ok so I’m glad someone (in the comments) finally brought up my speculation of what the spin offs could be. Well not just speculation, but hopes it will be. Something to do with the old republic. Obviously not the games/story and EU, but I find anything trying to explain the origins of the Jedi, and sith much more interesting than where boba fett or Han came from. I hate movies/tv shows that take an iconic character like Han Solo, or Indiana jones and explain where they came from. Seems short sighted and boring for a movie. Just my opinion though. I want to see new characters, new ideas. The old republic, or origins of where the Jedi and sith came from, has endless possibilities. And based on the “eh” stories that have come out so far from the old republic…it’d be cool to see what a collective writting mind could do. Although I wouldn’t mind them mining revan. Revan was definitely an awesome character. Especially since he was easy to identify with since he was good, he was bad, always had conflict, but in the end found a good balance. Which brings me to my next point…it seems quite obvious that Disney/Lucas film has made it clear that they are going to mine things from the EU if they feel it has a purpose for their direction and fits. So Mara could easily be in it, or maybe they’ll cut her. Who friggin knows. To those who say “the EU is dead get over it” you should really be saying…that is if you were smart enough to read between the lines of the statements they released about the EU…”The shit Disney and Lucasfilm hate in the EU is dead, but they’ll mine whatever the fu** they want from it”.

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  39. They will change her name back to Shira Brie and Marvel will have the last laugh.

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    1. I see your joke…Since marvel is owned by Disney…LOL

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  40. Well I hope Mara will be in Rebels , EP7 ect cause she is the most famous EU character….

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  41. I get cracked up at those who are like, “NO EU!!!!” I mean, what does it matter? If they do a good job with the plot, dialogue, and character development, what does it really matter if they decide to include a character or two from the expanded universe as a nod to the fans who like them. If the story calls for a certain character and they want to use them, great- if not, great as well…The point is, it’s not necessary that die hard OT fans buck on the idea of using EU characters just because they were originally conceived in the expanded universe. If you just like the OT, awesome. If you have followed the EU over the years cause you can’t get enough SW, that’s awesome too. I think it would be funny if a new character in the ST ends up being a fan-favorite of the hardcore OT fans and then they realize that said character was not an ep7 original conception but existed in the EU beforehand. If the creators of the film do their job well, it won’t matter if all the characters are original, mined from the EU, or a mix somewhere in between. I think we all just want to enjoy a good film anyway.

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    1. I like how people are saying “THE EU IS DEAD, MOVE ON!” when Lucasfilm has said that writers are encouraged to use/re-work existing ideas if it helps them make better stories. They did that a lot in “The Clone Wars”, and I suspect they’ll do it with “Rebels”.

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  42. Look no further than ol’ Timothy Zahn! Plenty of gold for Disney&LF to use.

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  43. If there is the possiblity of Mara Jade being involved, Lucasfilm I think should get Scarlett Johansson! She’s a great fit in the Star Wars universe!

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    1. You really want to see Scarlett with Hamill?

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    2. Disney already has her playing a redheaded, black leather jumpsuit female badass in another movie franchise… Let’s not have Black Widow in Star Wars with a purple lightsaber. It’d confuse the general audience and wouldn’t be good for toy sales. I mean, an action figure of Black Widow displayed next to an action figure of Mara Jade; the only difference would be the lightsaber and the packaging. It’s bad for publicity.
      She’s far too young for Mark anyway.

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    3. Yes for a spin-off movie, no for the Sequel Trilogy. Mark Hamill is old enough to be Scarlett Johansson’s father, but I could definitely see her playing the role during the Galactic Civil War era.

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    4. And please try and explain to me where a force-user like Mara Jade was while Luke was the last of the Jedi during the years of galactic civil war portrayed in the OT? How would her existence make sense at all?

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    5. Gwendoline is playing Mara Jade I bet

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  44. Interesting speculation, but aren’t you ignoring the official statement that movie Episodes 7-9 are NEW stories, having NOTHING to do with any of the books, comics or ancillary stories written around the saga?

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    1. I’m wondering the same thing. Luke may have a spouse, but her name WILL NOT be Mara Jade, she will most likely NOT have red hair, a purple lightsaber, a black leather jumpsuit or any of those features iconic to the EU character. I say good riddance. LIVE IN THE NOW!

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    2. If she is in the movie and if Gleeson is playing Luke/Mara’s child they have all ready changed parts of the time line and plot established in the EU. So the movie would stil be new and separate from the EU version of Jade.

      The character could easily be added and work.

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    3. Disney already has a red-headed, black leather jumpsuit female badass in another movie franchise… Let’s not have Black Widow in Star Wars with a purple lightsaber. It’d confuse the general audience and wouldn’t be good for toy sales. I mean, an action figure of Black Widow displayed next to an action figure of Mara Jade; the only difference would be the lightsaber and the packaging. It’s bad for publicity.

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    4. What exactly is confusing about that?

      Also there isn’t anything saying she would have the same outfit or wouldn’t have other aspect that would separate her from Widow.

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    5. Anon 6:11,

      then Disney should stop making superhero movies about masculine badasses in tight colorful suits, because they’ve already done that before with practically every marvel move ever made! “It’s bad for publicity.”

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    6. AnonymousJune 13, 2014 at 6:42 PM
      Is it not obvious that Black Widow looks exactly like the portrayals of Mara Jade? The superheroes that the Marvel films are based on do not look similar to each other at all… Does that really have to be said or are you just a fool?

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    7. Scarlet is too young for the role time frame in SW 7 Mara Jade would be in her 50′s&60′s. I thought I read somewhere they’re introducing her in SW Rebels? Any one know if this is true?

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    8. Anon 6:52, LOL, you still didn’t address the question I brought up, which is why Hollywood would continue churning out identical looking superhero man characters.

      I think the world can handle two red-headed females in two franchises. The public is smarter than you think, fool.

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    9. To say that Disney won’t have a Mara Jade character with red hair dressed in leather on the basis that there is already one in the Avengers is a very weak argument. Using this same logic, than Disney should never have made Frozen: there are at least five other Princess characters wearing colorful dresses made before it!

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  45. Let’s look at older actresses for Mara Jade shall we
    1.Sigourney Weaver
    2.Jodie Foster
    3.Julianne Moore (Already has the red hair)
    4.Christina Hendricks (Also already has the red hair)

    These four would be best bet for a Mara Jade.
    What do you guys think???

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    1. There was a rumor that Sigourney was in talks with JJ.

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    2. Kate Beckinsale

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    3. She’s 40 and still too young

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    4. I could see Jodi Foster in the role.

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  46. More sense to you from your point of view perhaps, to me I see Disney and their marketing strategy since day one is iconic characters. Mara Jade is almost as iconic as EU characters get (only a few like Revan or Thrawn are up there with her).

    JJ also had no issues using iconic Trek characters (not just the main crew) and reimagined them in his reboots (including the main crew)… so I fail to see why he’d not do the same here. He does after all likely have access to all the marketing data LFL has on every EU character. After all they did warn us they could adapt old EU content, and the only true controversy with Khan from Trek was JJ lying to fans he wasn’t Khan… and then he was. That can’t be an issue now, we have been warned.

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  47. I haven’t read all the comments so forgive me if this was already brought up. But someone had said Mara can’t be in Epi 7 because she’s a Zahn character…. But Lucas himself borrowed from Zahn when he named the Galactic Capitol planet Coruscant. Zahn had given name to the planet when he wrote the Thrawn trilogy.

    Personally there are a few EU characters I’d like seen in true canon… Mara Jade, the Solo twins and Ben. I have other favorite EU characters, but those, to me, are as much a part of Star Wars as Luke, Leia and Han.

    Also as stated before Aayla Secura was a EU character that was made canon in the Prequel.

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    1. Very true.
      I think JJ will use some EU. To fill in the gap of 6-7.
      I think we’ll see some form of Thrawn commanding the left over star destroyer fleet. Some form of Mara jade as Luke’s companion. We already know that Ridley is a Han/Leia kid.

      I think that’s all we’ll most likely see but in minor roles.
      1.Mara Jade
      2.Thrawn
      3.Darth Plagueis (Max Sydow)

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  48. Speculation roles…
    1.Old cast same roles
    2.John Boyega Either Lando’s son or Luke’s Apprentice
    3.Daisy Ridley Han/Leia’s Daughter
    4.Oscar Isaac Thrawn type or Han/Leia’s Son
    5.Adam Driver Sith Apprentice
    6.Max Von Sydow Darth Plagueis or the Sith lord from SW Rebels
    7.Domhnell Gleeson Luke’s Son
    8.Andy Serkis Some CGI character?
    9.Lupita Nyong’o Sith witch/Ventress or something else?
    10.Gwendoline Christie My only thought is female wookie?

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    1. My speculation roles…

      1.Old cast, same roles
      2.John Boyega as Luke’s Apprentice
      3.Daisy Ridley as Han/Leia’s Daughter
      4.Oscar Isaac as “Han Solo” of the ST; unrelated to Han or Luke
      5.Adam Driver as Sith Apprentice; Han/Leia’s son?
      6.Max Von Sydow as “Tarkin” of the ST or Sith Lord
      7.Domhnell Gleeson as Luke’s Son or new droid
      8.Andy Serkis as “Chewbacca” of the ST, Oscar’s cool alien sidekick
      9.Lupita Nyong’o as a female villain Sith or witch, possibly a Jedi or bounty hunter
      10.Gwendoline Christie as the female version of Grand Admiral Thawn

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    2. You described Asaaj Ventress she is all of those things. 1.Sith Witch 2.Sith 3.Bounty Hunter, she was even Jedi at one point before her master got killed and the Sith found her. And this is fitting for Lupita Nyong’o she was even tagged for Ventress long before she was casted. She looks like her, minus the skin color, but Ventress is Greyish can easy be transferred as different color…

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    3. Hmm. Interesting. I have nothing against Lupita being Asajj – except the age difference. But whatever. Disney will make it work if they want to.

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    4. My speculation:

      Daisy Ridley= Leia/Han’s daughter.
      Gleeson= Luke/Mara Jade’s son (hence the red hair)
      Boyega= some nobody they pick up on TAtooine who has a strong natural force ability, later becomes an important jedi character.
      Hammil= Luke Skywalker, a hermit on Dagobah
      Serkis= all the CG creations with speaking roles
      Lupita Nyong’o: female sith, like Maul, who gets killed in the end.
      Gwendolyne: Ventress
      Max Von Sydow: Tarkin-like character.

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  49. Just thought I would throw in that Daisy Ridley has Jaina Solo next to her name in SW Ep. VII – IMDb as of today.

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    1. If this is true, then it might be a safe bet Mara Jade will also make her way to Epi 7 or at least made legitimate in the now post-RotJ canon. Let’s not forget Jaina and Jason Solo were also Timothy Zahn characters.

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    2. I think Adam Driver will be Jacen Solo that turns to the Dark side in Episode 7 in which Han Solo and gang try to rescue, in doing so the leads to the death of Han Solo. I think this or something similar will be the driving story arc that sets things in motion effecting everyone.
      Episode 1 and 4 both had a death element that was the driving story arc for the episode and its Trilogy.

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  50. Title theories….
    1.SW episode 7:The Ancient Fear! Makes sense to me since it kinda goes with episode 1&4. But episode 4 had, A new hope, and episode 1 was phantom menace what does that tell us for the title? What where both movies about? The Mysterious element of the force, so the title should tie into this fact.
    2.SW episode 8:Clash of the sith or Shadows of the sith! why I say these type of titles? Well episode 2 and 5 where about conflicts.
    3.SW episode 9:Resurrection of the Jedi! Episode 9 will have a Jedi in its title, thus being about the Jedi. The Redemption of some sort is what episode 3 and 6 was about. And so the title will reflect this in some way. Lets talk about Return of the Jedi title at first it was called Revenge of the Jedi then was changed to Return of the Jedi Lucas feeling that’s not what a Jedi does.

    Thoughts?

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    1. I like your ideas and think that you are probably in the ballpark, of not only the titles, but the themes of the movies. As a writer of series myself (I’m a published romance author), I understand the use of an overreaching story arc, and see it in both SW trilogies. It makes perfect sense that this current trilogy will reflect the same arc.

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  51. Lets not all forget that it was Timothy Zahn that created Coruscant in Heir to the Empire, the EXACT same novel in which he created Mara Jade.
    Lucas used Coruscant in the Prequal trilogy, Is it really that much of a stretch that Mara Jade will be in the Sequal trilogy? is it really?

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    1. Zahn was in consort with LFL the entire time he was writing the Heir Trilogy. Lucas had veto rights to any element in the novels. How does anyone but Lucas & Zahn know that Coruscant is in fact the name Lucas had for the Capitol of the Empire? If it was named by Lucas, then it is Canon!

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  52. The thing I like least about Mara jade is the name Mara jade. Its very corny and juvenile sounding. But if they change the name then it kinda negates the character. I don’t want her in this movie and don’t think she will be. JJ can come up with a better character I think if there has to be a relationship story for Luke. I just think its trying.to fit too much shit in personally. It smacks of happily ever after in a way that is just too convenient. I would like there to be more loneliness and conflict. And why dwell on this now.I don’t think her presence will move the plot along so why bother to make it Mara jade specifically?

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    1. The SW fan base is huge and filled with a lot of different view points. A lot people feel the exact opposite way you do. No matter what they do or don’t decide some people will like it while others won’t. So the simple answer to your question of why they might add her would be because ultimately either Abrams and/or Disney’s opinion isn’t the same as yours.

      It also could be which would be the simple answer as to why they wouldn’t.

      Time will tell.

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    2. I can respect that. It is only one man’s opinion and I not going to complain if they do it within the bounds of the story. I mostly think the name is a bit contrived and trite. But I suppose when you look at Skywalker from a distance it seems a little silly as well

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  53. I can’t believe this was even posted after Disney / Lucasfilm / and George Lucas himself have confirmed publicly 4 times that these characters are not in the film. Her figure came out almost a year ago and was designed about a year before that, I can’t believe people can’t just let lame Characters like Mara Jade and Ben Solo go. Go read your fake novels and have good cry.

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    1. Ben Solo…?

      Han and Leia stole Luke’s name idea?

      How rude.

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    2. “how wude”

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    4. Was thinking more of a 3PO “how rude”.

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  54. I’d l-o-v-e to see the character Domhnall Gleeson is playing turn out to be Luke’s son.

    And, if, by extension, that means we may see Mara Jade appear in Episode VII, then hey, all the better.

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  55. I heard they just cast a Game of Thrones actor to play Aquaman in the new Star Wars

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    1. You mean, “the new DC movie”. :P

      But yeah, Jason Momoa will make a sick Aquaman.

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  56. Well that’s just silly.

    They would obviously go with a Marvel character.

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  57. “Gut feelings” and “grains of salt” will only make the impact of disappointment even more devastating. The EU announcement was supposed to pretty much kill these types of expectations.

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    1. From the EU announcement that you speak of -

      “In order to give maximum creative freedom to the filmmakers and also preserve an element of surprise and discovery for the audience, Star Wars Episodes VII-IX will not tell the same story told in the post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe. While the universe that readers knew is changing, it is not being discarded. Creators of new Star Wars entertainment have full access to the rich content of the Expanded Universe. For example, elements of the EU are included in Star Wars Rebels. The Inquisitor, the Imperial Security Bureau, and Sienar Fleet Systems are story elements in the new animated series, and all these ideas find their origins in roleplaying game material published in the 1980s.”

      I hardly see how it kills expectations when they’re inviting writers to rework old concepts into new works.

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  58. If Mara was in Episode VII, wouldn’t she be like 65 years old?
    Who wants that?!!

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    1. They’ll probably go back and tell stories about her when she was younger. Plus, if it’s Sigourney Weaver, that would be the most awesome thing.

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  59. That was very informative for me. Thanks a lot of the post! Really loved that.

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  60. I’ve been praying to see this…no Mara Jade, Jacen (JASON, for the love of God???) and Jaina Solo, no Yuuzhan Vong, or anything else from those awful novels of the last thirty years. I hope they start over. That’s the best gift the new movies could give me!

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