Potential Movie Clue In Star Wars Rebels: “Empire Day?”
SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t seen the new episode of Star Wars: Rebels “Empire Day” then you may want to stop reading and move along until you can catch the episode. Otherwise, you’ve been warned. Continue reading, if you dare, after the break.
First and foremost, it should be noted that this investigation was performed by one of our Cantina members named “Mike.” He astutely unveiled something, a little “Easter Egg” that may or may not have some ramifications on the Sequel Trilogy, but are intriguing nonetheless. Thanks Mike!
Now on to the juicy tidbits. Mike started a thread in The Cantina forum — which has turned out to be a great source for tipsters and discoveries such as this — called “Possible Hint In Rebels ‘Empire Day.'” In the latest episode there is a scene in which Sabine is viewing a holographic tactical pane. On the pane is written some text in the basic Star Wars font known as “aurebesh.” You can see an example of this font on The Cantina title bar. Mike did some translating and this is what he came up with:
See File = 11/27/13 For the most recent stratefy and tactics from Imperial Opter rim high command
As you may have noticed it appears that there are some words that are spelled incorrectly. Mike surmised that since the transmission was encrypted it would have been garbled. At any rate it’s some good detective work. As you may also notice there appears some numbers in the obvious form of a date. Mike did some Google-snooping and discovered that the date was the release date for the “Star Wars Legacy” Volume 2 Issue 9 Dark Horse comic book. Further investigation revealed this interesting find:
A lot of the “Legacy” era has been about these larger-than-life Emperors and royalty—we’re taking this down to much more of a ground level. Ania Solo is somebody that is not a part of that world, and she doesn’t have a personal connection to it. She may have even turned her back on it.” […] “She’s living in a backwater, Outer Rim system. She runs a junkyard and she doesn’t have that many prospects, and that’s where we start things. Our story takes off there.”
A lot of these elements seem familiar don’t they? A female Solo . . . Living on a backwater planet in the Outer Rim . . . Running a junkyard without many prospects . . . Recall that Simon Kinberg said, at this years WonderCon, that the old EU “Legends” are fair game for the new filmmakers:
“It’s certainly not off limits, it’s certainly inspiring. I’m working on an animated show for them as well [in] ‘Star Wars Rebels’ that will take inspiration from everywhere, but I know for the movies the canon is the canon and the canon is the six films that exist.”
But wait! There’s more! Mike did another search which revealed this interesting factoid about this “Ania Solo”:
Solo was working as a junk dealer in the Carreras system, and she accidentally discovered the lightsaber of Imperial Knight Yalta Val after an Imperial communications droid containing the lightsaber turned up in her junkyard.
Even more rumored elements that we’ve been reporting — Female working as a junk dealer . . . Accidentally discovers a lightsaber . . . With connections to an “Imperial Knight” . . . All very eerie in their familiarity of the slew of rumors we’ve heard during this past summer’s Principal Photography. Surely these not-so-coincidental “coincidences” roughly describe Daisy Ridley’s character as we’ve heard them? Would Disney — knowing that The Force Awakens was just on the horizon — allow Dark Horse to move forward with a storyline that contained elements that they planned to use in the feature films?! I would like to think they would NOT, however these similarities cannot be denied.
Also, now is the time to remind you of our article called “Could Recent Star Wars: Episode VII Rumors Come From Star Wars: Legacy, Volume 2?” that we posted back in August. You can read it HERE.
So the alleged date? Is it a date? Would Disney really put this important date — posing as a massive clue — into Rebels merely as an Easter Egg? IF it is a date then it points to November 27th of 2013 in which case the aforementioned comic was released, a comic that holds a lot of striking similarities to the rumors we’ve heard. OR could the date point backwards and forwards? What I mean by that is that maybe it is pointing to “Legacy” for the clues we’ve detailed, but perhaps it is also pointing forward to November 27th of 2014, which is right around the corner. That date happens to be Thanksgiving. And as we’ve been reporting there is a rumor suggesting that the alleged Star Wars: The Force Awakens teaser trailer will be dropping sometime soon. However, there doesn’t seem to be any remarkable franchise movies opening on that date unless the trailer were to drop on network television, which seems unlikely.
Okay, so there you have it! Daisy Ridley’s character may have been greatly influenced by “Ania Solo.” But what are you waiting for?! We want to hear what you think, so get in on the exciting conversation here!
Never thought of Anakin being feminized into “Ania”.
Ania Solo. I love it!
Wouldn’t her nick name still Be….Annie?
Yeah, or perhaps “Anne”. But she doesn’t have to be known by that nickname.
“Ania” is a Polish name, short for “Anna” which is equivalent to English “Anne”.
It’s actually a Russian name.
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You know it to be true http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mctafhwrB91rcaovvo1_500.jpg
Much of this is circumstantial conjecture, which I find mostly harmless. But I did want to weigh in on the “teaser” speculation.
There continues to be, in my opinion, an incorrect belief that the teaser has to be (and will be) attached to either a Disney movie in theatres or a franchise of another kind. While that may have been the way things worked when the prequel trailers launched, that has increasingly stopped being a studio tactic. Oh, they’re attached to things…but more and more, the big things drop online first. Marvel -wanted- to tie the Ultron trailer to Agents of SHIELD, but in the end, ended up releasing it a week earlier online. The Hobbit trailers have all been online first, as have been a number of other trailers (Guardians of the Galaxy released it’s big trailer on Facebook). Assuming that the trailer has to be tied to a big release in theatres continues to be an assumption that has no backing, based on movie releases from a decade or more ago. It might be tied to a movie…but anymore, the goal of these things is to get millions of online views and shares. You don’t get that with a movie in theatres.
And you can be sure, if JW was tapped to write music for the trailer, it ain’t going to be some abstract 30 second teaser.
JW hired to score the music of the trailer? I do not buy it.
He will probably score the whole thing, then they use his music for a later trailer.
Regarding a teaser or even an early longer trailer, they already have enough Star Wars music from the six previous episodes that would fit perfectly with a new teaser/trailer.
So, why would they ask John Williams to score only a 1 or even 3 minutes thing?
because Disney is a greedy empire? I csn well imagine them to have jj forced to get Williams music for the trailer. Purely fulfilling fanservice. Thats the probly of producers, they can gez their fat, greasy fingers everywhere they please, you simply buy some John Williams music. Unfortunately thats not how it should proceed.
Also Episode III first trailer was first online on starwars.com and the date wasn’t a surprise
You guys left out the reformed bad guy that she winds up teaming with who happens to look like John Boyega. Google “Jao Assam”
While true, the other “finalists” up for Boyega’s role (whatever it is) were white. I don’t remember their names off the top of my head, but one was Landry from Friday Night Lights tv show, the other is on Downton Abbey. But I agree, it does seem to appear that story infuleced ep7.
I’m convinced the gingers (Speleers and MethDamon) were up for the role Domnhall Gleeson got. They all look alike.
Domhall is only in the first 14 minutes of the film anyway.
A little hint: Last Crusade
He’s Young Indy!? Is this going to show how he got his fedora and scar? 🙂
River Phoenix was young Indy.
“Domhall is only in the first 14 minutes of the film anyway.
A little hint: Last Crusade”
Oh. Domhnall and Max are the same character. Domhnall plays him during the PT era, and Max will play him in the present.
Right? PT and ST are about 50 years apart. What if this character was related to Obi-Wan?
Hmmm. Domhnall does look like a young MVS!
I originally thought that Max was Domhnall’s father or grandfather (both possibly being related to Obi-Wan).
I never considered them both to be the same person, because, you know, Star Wars isn’t known to jump around like that. 🙂
I like how you very precisely say “the first 14 minutes of the film,” considering it hasn’t been cut yet.
I don’t think so. Episode 7 will be a George Lucas story. No some crapy comic
Could the date be off by one number, and actually supposed to read, 11/27/14?? That’s thanksgiving, and could potentially be the day the trailer is revealed??
A prophecy misread could have been…
“She’s living in a backwater, Outer Rim system. She runs a junkyard and she doesn’t have that many prospects, and that’s where we start things. Our story takes off there.” Wasn’t that, along with “she’s a survivor and never a victim, etc”, a part of the description released by Disney describing one of the female leads – Rachel, supposedly.
However, it all seems too good to be true. Which likely means, it is! It may well be a well thought out ploy, dropping breadcrumbs that lead ingeniously down the wrong path and to dubious conclusions.
If they are releasing the teaser on thanksgiving, they may do it on tv and not in theaters first. I haven’t checked the schedule but the nfl always has 2-3 games on thanksgiving day. The games typically get significantly higher ratings than the “normal” regular-season games. Usually all broadcast on different channels. Again, I haven’t checked the schedule, but ESPN usually broadcasts one of them. Disney owns ESPN, premiering it during the game could be a good way to reach the “average” viewer.
That would be more unique than anything. You can reach more people through television than anything.
Just air the trailer during prime time or something. That almost nevery happens. Strange, considering the amount of people you can reach.
There is no ESPN game on Thanksgiving Day. CBS at noon. Fox at 4:30. NBC at 8:30. There is a college football game on ESPN that night, though. If I were a betting man (and I am)…if they were to drop the trailer on Thanksgiving Day…I’d do it during the NBC night game.
That said…
Honestly, it would surprise me to have an online trailer release on Thanksgiving Day. Mostly because people are often away from home, away from computers, etc. Hard to go quickly viral like that, when so many people are busy doing other things. That’s why if I were to release it that day, I’d do it at night during primetime. That way it could be in theatres on Black Friday, which (believe it or not) is a big movie weekend.
I still believe we won’t get a trailer until December. But I’ve been wrong before.
Are the wrong letters actually a clue? f-p first preview? something else?
Is this a possible misdirection? A red herring to keep us from the contents of the mystery box?
Why oh why would they have this in a Rebels episode if it were real? Maybe just maybe this is Disney telling us that we are way off on what is really going on with this movie. I find it very hard to believe Disney would lead us to such a huge plot point if it were real. I thought JJ and company wanted to protect their secrets and this would not be protecting it. If it were true someone on Rebels is getting fired. I’m thinking the guy with the cowboy hat (btw don’t think he is getting fired).
Some people have too much spare time….
Isn’t that the goal in life; to create more spare time?
Whoa…mind blown…
How interesting! And in the Legacy comics, Jao Assam could be Boyega’s character, and the comics’ Imperial Knights could essentially be these Chrome Troopers and special ops troopers in TFA we’ve been hearing rumors of!
My thought exactly when I saw this. But if that’s the case, who is the Emperor Fel?
I think that… we are nerds that overthink things.
Is there anything cool in this rebels show, I stopped watching after the first episode since it was so lame.
Shame… its legitimately gotten better as its gone on, especially in regards to voice acting now that the Actors have gotten better senses of the characters.
But all this was already speculated that Dark Horse comics in a “middle finger” for losing the comic rights to Marvel may have spoiled the plot of TFA.
http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2014/08/could-recent-star-wars-episode-7-rumors-come-from-star-wars-legacy-volume-2.html
You make an interesting point, Marvel has recently stopped many story lines that were feeding Sony with Xmen,Spidey,and fantastic4.
I also feel much of what has been spun out for Spiderman titles is garbage to weaken the fan base so rights can revert back to Marvel.
In this case it is the opposite.
You are so right you sexist, racist troll.
Racist?? Why?
@ Tim Snow:
Stop acting like a victim. You’re well known around here for voicing sexist and racist views. At least be adult enough to own up to it.
ITs a wacko viewpoint to think that women are human beings, and thus equally capable of being the lead characters in movies?
But wouldn’t a female lead make up for all the outcrys over a lack of female cast members (which seems far from the truth.)
That and a bunch of well-written, well-acted female characters, hells YES! 😀
I think it’s all misdirection.
I’m following Star Wars Rebels despite off not being so great. It’s SW, and i like some aspects of it.
I haven’t read the article nor watch the new episode, but i’m thinking not to watch it.
But why they have to show some posible Spoilers from E7? I just can’t understand.
Cowboys Thanksgiving game half-time Trailer, confirmed…
Im even thinking the leaked art was leaked on purpose
Frankly, who needs the supposed easter egg from Rebels?
What we already “know” about the plot and character seems to point to the Daisy character being very much like Ania and the DH Legacy plot. Who knows, maybe this is more mining of the EU for good ideas…
Helloooo..Mcfly…
Isn’t it obvious..they’ve been using this comic as the basis of JJ’s disinformation campaign.
Like you say..why would they let Dark Horse use a very similar story or characters to EP VII…they wouldn’t ….they’ve been using it as a blueprint for leaking false spoilers.
I hope that’s the case. I like the idea of being entertained with lies so that I can keep the film experience as fresh as possible
– as long as it’s better than the bull! 😉
Or the comics just used bits from the Arndt script that were discarded in later verions.
Why do you even bother with the ST anymore, Tom? Daisy isn’t going away. Maybe you should.
@ Tim Snow:
This isn’t about a difference of opinion. I welcome that. This is about you constantly bitching and moaning over women and minorities.
I was getting at the fact that they’re not going away, so why do you bother to continue watching Star Wars if you’re just going to complain about it?
Hmmm ….. One more Disney series to have any subliminal message.
Subliminal Messages are an urban myth, and they wouldnt work if your subconscious brain has no context to understand them.
If you cant read something, your brain wont ever process it… EVER
So all the “spoilers” we gotten are just reworks of obscure legacy characters? The writers don’t come up with anything original? I really hope all the rumors end up being false because most of them make the movie seem lame
Old recycled rumor. You already posted this on August 21, 2014. And yeah, it sounds like more false info. Or the comic book writers knew the outline for the movie and were inspired by it. But nothing more.
Remember Lucas and Kennedy commissioned Arndt to write a script in early 2012 around the same time as the comic. I doubt Arndt or even Kasdan/Abrams during the rewrite looked to this random comic for inspiration.
what if the 13 is the time? One’O’CLOCK Any big events on at that time on that day?
Yeah! Lunch!
What’s that shit Yoda cooks for Luke to eat on Dagobah in TESB? Is it supposed to be chili?
Is there some SW book that names the food? Why doesn’t Yoda eat any of it?
man i was making soup and wondering that exact same thing today.. yodas stews probably the shit!
Yoda’s soup was part of his patience test.
Step #1: annoy the crap out of Luke
Step #2: eat his food
Step #3: make him bad soup that he’s supposed to eat.
If your prospective Padawan sticks with you, then he is patient enough to attempt Jedi training
>> BTW Luke technically failed the patience test.
You’re digging into something little more than Half-Life fans who freak out whenever they come across the number 3.
If someone like Lawrence Kasdan has to resort to some comic book plot to stir his imagination (especially when he has a huuuge brand-new, blank canvas to work with), then creativity in Hollywood is truly dead.
Lighten up, the script for ESB was written before Kasdan signed on. Kasdan made a new one, but he did read the original first. Why not do the same but substitute a Lucas-rough-draft for a comic?
In fact why is anyone upset with Daisy being an important character? It’s not like she has cat-ears and a tail.
PS. I hope Andy Serkis is a Mon Calamari. He would rock that lobster disguise.
lol, I was only being sarcastic. It’s one thing to work on Lucas’ original TESB draft (and lest we forget, Raiders of the Lost Ark, too) and another thing to base your work on a comic book series that, quite frankly, doesn’t even sound that good to begin with.
Kasdan is no fanfic writer lol. The man’s an accomplished screenwriter and director. Of course he didn’t have to base his script on some comic book series, written by people a lot less talented than him, in all likelihood. So again, I was just being sarcastic. I just find it hilarious that some folk would actually be gullible enough to believe this, is all.
A nationally televised trailer during prime time where everyone is home eating their turkey sounds like a winner winner, turkey dinner.
I find on interesting thing and a comment. On the cover of the one comic we see a Mon Calimari…Heard there would be one in TFA. Now for the comment. Rebels was in pre production etc how long? When do you think that drawing was done? Quite some time ago…probably even before they started filming episode VII.
Well if you read the actual story as it was written you’d see it had more to do with the overall plot and not so much as characters
Ha, that you did AB
Kevin, while I wouldn’t recommend drugs to expand ones mind, in your case I’d buy u a map of the world to show you that ‘Murika is but one small part of it. Ta.
I don’t think that Daisy is playing the daughter of Han Solo and Leia. I think that she is the daughther of Luke.
I think she’s playing neither of them.
Cannot wait to find out Han solo sister!!!
Ok soooo…
Luke is living with his wife, gets a daughter, accidentally kills his wife (too powerful), brings daughter to MvS, exile.
Huge danger (Chromtroopers, rebuilt the empire), MvS knows Anakin/Luke/ the Empire, talks with her about them, she wants to find Lukr, talks with Boyega who knows Han, Boyega knows the Chrometroopers and their plans, she fall in love with Boyega, finds Han/Chewie plus Hans Son (Driver, bad guy), in the end Luke got find, Luke sees the future, Hans son will be the evil, argue with Han because of his son, says to his daughter he is the father, she get trained, and so on.
Mayyyyybe.
Accidentally kills his wife? You mean kinda like Anakin? Do you think this happens alot in Skywalker families?
Note to all girls: Never date a guy called Skywalker, unless you wanna explain at work how you got that black eye by running into a door.
So JJ and Disney are looting the SW Legacy universe for ideas, but cannot loot the SW EU because in the Disney verse it does not exist, yet the characters from Legacy are offshoots (descendants) of those from the SW EU, or are connected in some way to it. So then if the Extended Universe is an alternate version, I guess then the descendants of the EU characters can be characters in the Disney verse version, because they are all tied together by the force no matter what universe they hail from. Geez that’s confusing.
So is the Disney verse Ania Solo, the daughter or niece of Han, or is she an immaculate conception like her namesake, and that’s why Han and Leia are separated, because Han believed she cheated on him with Luke and all three aren’t talking to each other.
Presenting this week’s click bait article. Why I have issues with guys sometimes. A fake rumor warning thread finally goes up in the forum after months of idiots making up rumors. There is nothing to see here. But you its a slow news week waiting for the 30 second trailer.
Ouch, Carton. Very ouch…
JJ’s taking Star Wars back to it’s roots, i.e, the OT. I would think, keeping with tradition, that TFA teaser will be released in the cinema.
Probably with The Hobbit.
You Suck
Just hit me, if they go all in with the female hero it could be like the Hunger Games. I don’t know. Its just the kneejerk reaction I think the public will automatically relate to. Give her a light-bow. Nightsisters energy bow is the right term.
I’m not christian or anything but i randomly put those numbers into google and got a passage this is a quote. ‘The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.’
That’s a long shot but it sounds like the rumor of Lukes exile, to somewhere we do not yet know
The similarities with the costume of the Sith apprentice in Legacy and Force Awakens are too much of coincidence not to be shared. I still think the character we are seeing is Darth Ruin’s apprentice. Sith master Ruin likely isn’t even in the movie. There is no actor named as to who would play him. He likely dies offscreen when the apprentice kills him in some sort of tie-in comic from Marvel much like the Clone Wars microseries introduced Grevious a year before for Revenge of the Sith.
I think he nailed it! Check what Wokipedia says…
Ania Solo was a Human female who was a member of the House of Solo, a descendant of the smuggler Han Solo and the Jedi Knight Leia Organa Solo. She was also a distant cousin of Empress Marasiah Fel.[2] By 138 ABY, Solo was working as a junk dealer in the Carreras system, and she accidentally discovered the lightsaber of Imperial Knight Yalta Val after an Imperial communications droid containing the lightsaber turned up in her junkyard. Enlisting the help of her Mon Calamari friend Sauk, Solo attempted to sell the weapon on Carreras Major, but soon became the target of a Sith posing as Val when the Sith learned that she had his lightsaber. Pursued by the star system’s security forces, Solo, Sauk, and their friend AG-37 joined forces with the Imperial Knight Jao Assam in order to locate the real Val, but they were captured by security forces not long afterwards, and Solo’s friends were injured in a battle with the Sith during their escape attempt. Determined to save her friends, Solo pursued the Sith and helped prevent the Sith’s attempt to execute the real Master Val live on a galaxy-wide broadcast, and Solo was able to save her friends and escape the destruction of the Carreras G51 communications array.
Your warm but not quite hot… Yes their is dissinfo going on some sites like this one,and they are run by Disney.
I do not know much but yes the message points to the comic in question. And it was Kennedy and jjs idea to do so the “mystery box would be a great tool to use in pre marketing…” was close to the quote in the letter packet we got about the handover to marvel and that is all I can say as I do not know much. Edward amgiN
You work for dark horse?
Yes.
Sorry I’m joining the party so late but there is a character called Antares Draco that could easily be Oscar Issac’s character and he’s gets married to Marasia Fel who Ania Solo. The fact that Ania is a Solo also explains why Hans doesn’t have his ship either. Ultimately I think they used the comic as a starting point and built something different from there. I’m cool with this. It works as a solid homage to the CU, works the older cast in, and leaves enough room to move forward with something super new.
ezra is the same age as luke and leia!
probable even the same day!
15 years beforevon the empire day.
(after the order 66)