EXCLUSIVE: A New Interesting Item from Star Wars: The Force Awakens!

Construction_of_the_Death_StarOur sources have dropped by with a few extra — and juicy — pieces of content relating to the production of Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, and we’re ready to give you details about one of them!

 

The following description can be considered a pretty big SPOILER, regarding what may very well be the climax of the film. Advance at your own risk.

 

 

SPOILERS BEGIN HERE!

 

 

This item will probably invoke a bit of déjà vu for a lot of you, drawing inspiration from the movie that started it all: A New Hope. It involves a model of a “console . . . used on a Star Destroyer Bridge” that appears as though it could either be connected to the back of a wall or it could be viewed from two sides. The console shows three massive objects – the first of which is a large planet, the second of which is a smaller planet orbiting the planet in question, and the third of which is another celestial body approaching, with a targeting range.

 

I’m going to take an educated guess here and say that the approaching object is decidedly not naturally related to either of these planets, based on the fact that one, the planets are colored green while the approaching object is hollow with red horizontal lines, and two, the object’s approach does not resemble an orbit, but a diagonal movement.

 

The item we were sent is not a concept art, it’s real. We asked our friend Eli Hyder to do a sketch of it. Here it is:

 

 

weapon

 

So what I’m getting from this is that it looks a lot like the Battle of Yavin, and that it lines up a lot with the Mizzlewump leak and planet-weapon rumors. However, one aspect that separates the weapon from being a simple Death Star III is that its range seems to extend beyond the reach of the planet. It’ll be interesting to see how the good guys deal with this threat – after all, what can you do to stop an approaching planet?

 

 

Death Star Approaching
Death Star 1

 

 

I know that many of you think that this is just too similar to the display computer we’ve seen in A New Hope, and that it’s very unlikely for Disney to use such thing again. But believe us, this item is as real as it gets. The question is how important will it be for the plot. It might be an essential part of the story but it’s also possible that this will be used just like a cool background prop, or an easter egg maybe?

 

Whatever the case it appears that the super weapon rumor is very far from a fan fiction. Recently one of our sources contacted us and told us the production name of that weapon:

The Weapon is planet based and it’s called “Catapult” that’s the code name and Leia needs to destroy it. They do test fire it or demonstrate it early in film. 

And as expected this would suggest that Leia probably is some kind of leader of the Rebellion – the Mon Mothma of the Sequel Trilogy.

 

A few days ago we told you about the “Evil Castle” and now we hear about the “Catapult”. Also the villain has a “Cross Guard” lightsaber! And of course we have a Jedi KNIGHT. Sounds like we’re going to see a lot of Excalibur-esque influence on The Force Awakens as we discussed it before (HERE).

 

Stay tuned for more interesting info next week when we will discuss another report we received, much different from what we’ve heard so far.

 

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Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

Grant Davis (Pomojema)

Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.

153 thoughts on “EXCLUSIVE: A New Interesting Item from Star Wars: The Force Awakens!

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:07 pm
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    “Again it’s like poetry sort of, they rhyme.”

    • January 22, 2015 at 12:17 am
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      I’ve got a bad feeling about this…

      • January 22, 2015 at 10:58 pm
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        edwdasd

      • January 26, 2015 at 10:10 am
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        It’s a trap!!

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:13 pm
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    Now that would be lame…

    • January 24, 2015 at 5:01 pm
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      Leave it to JJ to come up with some super creative new ideas: Excalibur imagery, weapon of mass destruction, crossed light sabers. This is so absolutely fascinating, and has certainly not been done to death. Or actually, on second thought, it has. So, we get yet-another-ironman-like-action-flick. Well saves me money.

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:18 pm
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    With Disney throwing out Lucas’s ideas now, my excitment over the film has diminished considerably. Not using the ideas he sold them just turns this into an expanded universe movie, fan fiction. Sorry to the lucas haters out there, but I DO NOT trust a plot and story that has no influence from the god of star wars himself. Perhaps people thought the prequels stunk, but the story was gipping and well thought out, just not executed anywhere near as well as the originals. I’m sorry but this news isnt good for those who love “George Lucas’s” Star wars.

      • January 21, 2015 at 9:19 pm
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        That’s speculation, not fact.

        • January 22, 2015 at 9:38 pm
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          Also speculation that they are ditching everything.

    • January 21, 2015 at 8:36 pm
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      What exactly makes you think The Phantom Menace had a “well thought out” story at all? because I can give you about a hundred reasons why it might as well have been written by a monkey with a good rep.

      • January 21, 2015 at 9:27 pm
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        “I can give you about a hundred reasons why it might as well have been written by a monkey with a good rep.”

        Go for it…

          • January 21, 2015 at 10:36 pm
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            Just about the only thing more obnoxious than the Phantom Menace is Red Letter Media’s shitty review of it.

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:04 pm
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            The points he’s making are most important. There’s really no argument. I’d love to hear someone explain to me what is good about The Phantom Menace aside from the duel of the fates.

          • January 22, 2015 at 1:55 am
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            Here’s what I like. First, the philosophy of the “living force” is an interesting idea. Second, The podrace is kind of fun. Third, Natalie Portman is pretty. Fourth, Lucas effectively uses forshadowing of Qui Gon’s death, Fifth, The politics of the republic are interesting in a cerebral way; maybe not too exciting, but politics matter in our world too. Sidious’s political genius is kinda cool. Sixth, An underwater city is kind of cool. Seventh, I always liked the Naboo fighters. All sleek and yellow. Eighth, Naboo and Coruscant are cool planets even if there is too much CGI. I’d love to live on Naboo. Finally, Obi Wan’s character get’s a solid, if simple, foundation for later movies. He has some of Qui Gon’s rebelliousness and wisdom. (Attack of Clones doesn’t capitalize on this, but that’s not Phantom Menace’s fault).

          • January 22, 2015 at 3:24 am
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            In all fairness, most of these things are extremely superficial and do not pertain to the overall story or characters in a significant way.

            TPM is a strange beast that has a few bright moments, yes, but it’s a structurally poor and oddly thought out film. I’m not saying its bad per se, but it’s definitely not true to the Star Wars that we know and love.

            AOTC and ROTS are bad movies, however.

          • January 23, 2015 at 10:50 pm
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            The Phantom Menace was the least bad of the prequel movies. The acting, actually, was the worst of them (but I blame that on Lucas’ direction, not the stellar cast doing what they’re told).

            However, if you were to 100% completely remove the first movie, it would have absolutely no impact whatsoever on the series.

            Episode 1 serves NO purpose in the plot. The best argument to the opposite is to introduce the idea that Anakin was a chosen one born of the Force. That’s about it.

            In fact, Episode 2 and 3 are largely unnecessary (and highly contradictory to the original trilogy) as anymore more than a flashback.

            If you used just the Obi-Wan and Anakin scenes when they’re together and just the Obi-Wan scenes without all the details of watching Anakin’s point of view, you could mash the scenes into a single movie, set it as a flashback during old Obi-Wan (and his ghost)’s scenes in the original trilogy and the entire experience would be much improved.

            However, the portrayal of Anakin through Episode 2 and 3 otherwise negates any sympathy or joy at Anakin’s redemption in Return of the Jedi.

            There is nothing to redeem. The character was a jerk from the beginning and a spoiled brat. He was NEVER a good Jedi the way he was portrayed. He was a whiney brat who became a mas murderer before he was even a full Jedi Knight.

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:18 pm
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            Shitty review?! Are you drunk?

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:18 pm
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            Good ol’ conformity. Look, it’s nice that you’ve found a Leader to Follow & model your opinions after, but it would be nicer if you could pick one who doesn’t rely on something as morally vile as rape humor.

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:27 pm
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            Again, it’s the points he makes that matter. I’m only agreeing with him, not following him as a fucking disciple.
            Condescending much?
            Obviously he accomplished what he was trying to if the only disagreement you can muster up is about his sense of humor.

          • January 22, 2015 at 7:51 am
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            I must have missed the sign saying that this forum was for prequel trilogy haters only.

          • January 22, 2015 at 9:22 pm
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            His point is that even the most idiotic, socially disregarded people (the character of Mr. Plinkett) can point out the flaws in TPM.

          • February 20, 2015 at 10:10 am
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            The mods here should set up a fund that we can all pay into so that they can quit whatever real life occupations they have and just spend their time excising little back-and-forth slap fights like this and move them to a permanent thread called Attack of the Butthurt. I’m hoping that Kylo Ren rips off the mask to reveal himself as Knobchoke Binks, son of Jar-Jar, just so people like you have something to genuinely gnash teeth and rip garments about.

          • January 22, 2015 at 5:51 pm
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            I watched it years ago. Worthless piece of crap. Plinkett´s arguments are beyond idiotic and don´t make any godamm sense.

          • January 22, 2015 at 6:58 pm
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            Sorry, he may not have spoken monosyllabically enough for you to understand. His points make much more sense than TPM’s screenplay, that’s for sure.

    • January 21, 2015 at 8:58 pm
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      “but the story was gripping and well thought out” this actually made me laugh out loudlololololololololol.. the PT fans just wont give up. even when the brutal truth is spoon fed to them. and by Lucas Himself….

      there was NOTHING thought out about the PT stories. it was all done on the fly. production for the PT started before a story was even written. he built the story around special effects sets and his new Jar Jar character. the only thing pre planned about the PT was that it would be about annakin Skywalker and the clone war.

      • January 21, 2015 at 9:15 pm
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        Funny that in “From Star Wars to Jedi” Lucas states, “a special effect is only a tool; a means of telling a story. A special effect without a story is a pretty boring thing.”
        Couldn’t have said it better myself. This is proven in the prequels.

        • January 21, 2015 at 10:54 pm
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          Yes
          Some of the haters here are just boring. We all know you do not like these movies. Get over it, already.

          There are many of us, who do like these movies.

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:05 pm
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            Thanks for your two cents… Move along.

          • January 22, 2015 at 7:49 am
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            Yes, now take your own advice and get out of here, hater.

          • January 22, 2015 at 4:14 am
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            I HATED the PT for the longest time. I still bought the ships and figs, though–loved the idea and look, but not the execution. After time, they started to warm on me. There are still god-awful parts of them that I hate, but I think, as a “wanna-be” storyteller myself, there was a constraint in time to the story he wanted to tell. The stories were painted with a wide brush–some parts work, some do not.

          • January 22, 2015 at 7:00 pm
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            Lol. As movies they are garbage. Everyone wanted to like them but they turned out so bad. Who DOESN’T cringe during these movies?

      • January 21, 2015 at 10:49 pm
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        PT has great stories.

        • January 21, 2015 at 11:05 pm
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          Says who?

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:11 pm
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            Says the millions of Star Wars fan who thoroughly enjoy them and have a different opinion than you? Get over yourself already.

          • January 21, 2015 at 11:57 pm
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            I demand a recount!

          • January 22, 2015 at 12:56 am
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            Millions of people can be wrong.

          • January 22, 2015 at 7:16 pm
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            agreed, look at the NAZI party

        • January 22, 2015 at 5:43 am
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          ??? No!

      • January 22, 2015 at 6:14 pm
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        The prequel trilogy was not in production before a script. Episode III was definitely documented as doing some pre-production work as well as some art and design before a completed script. But the so was Return of the Jedi.

        That film also was well into pre-production before a final script was completed. Hardly new, for any trilogy.

    • January 21, 2015 at 9:06 pm
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      There’s a few other possibilities with the Lucas treatments, since we don’t know what they are, it’s possible they could be re-purposed for another trilogy down the road. Disney didn’t acquire Lucasfilm to make three a few spinoffs and be done, they will keep going as long as people will buy tickets.

      Another thing to consider is for the last 20 years or so Lucas has been surrounded by shameless yes men, who did not appear to offer any constructive input to prevent any of the more destructive flaws in the prequel trilogy. At a minimum some of the retcons and continuity errors between his own movies could have been avoided.

      I’m willing to give the benefit of doubt that talented film makers and writers are the fresh set of eyes needed to take the next step with the story. I think the star wars IP is in good hands, until I see otherwise.

      • January 21, 2015 at 11:07 pm
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        Very well said

      • January 23, 2015 at 2:51 am
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        Lucas defended the inclusion of Jar Jar Binks by saying The Phantom Menace was a kids film and that adults should just get over it… Why then is the story so heavely based on politics ?
        I sit there with my 5 and 8 year old sons and can’t even begin to explain the opening scroll and it’s jargon about trade disputes and blockades…. I’m not sure I understand it myself….. Just saying.

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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      Such optimism!

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:38 pm
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      I couldn’t agree more

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:38 pm
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      You re right

    • January 21, 2015 at 11:08 pm
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      Good. One less hater in line in front of real Star Wars fans.

      • January 23, 2015 at 10:22 am
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        No such thing as a real Star Wars fan. You’re either a fan or you’re not, so there is no such thing as a “real fan”.

        • January 24, 2015 at 12:29 am
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          Completely agree!

    • January 22, 2015 at 10:58 pm
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      Excuse me… are you on CRACK???

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:19 pm
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    Oh man, I dont know if i want to read this!!!

    How sure are you guys that this is legit??

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:23 pm
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    Aww really?
    Another super weapon? Can’t they fight over something else instead of one side trying to destroy/control the world?
    That’s silly..

    • January 21, 2015 at 8:25 pm
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      If it helps, I don’t think this is the driving force of the plot like the Death Star was in ANH. I think this is just a component of it.

      • January 21, 2015 at 8:32 pm
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        Hopefully you’re right.

        It would be really boring if the entire plot was just, “The bad guys got a super weapon and we need to destroy it!”

      • January 21, 2015 at 8:37 pm
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        If it were a driving force in the plot, why would it be so easily leaked?

      • January 22, 2015 at 12:12 am
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        It could just be the opening battle/conflict of the movie that shows the Empire’s last stand – almost a nod to the OT and then the “real” story begins afterwards- OR it could be a flashback of Death Star I or II to introduce/show how some new characters have “been there since the OT”

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:24 pm
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    NOT next week…..RIGHT NOW!!!

    • January 21, 2015 at 8:26 pm
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      Patience, Padawan.

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:29 pm
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    It would appear that they are taking bits from Arndt’s script after all.

    Someone had posted online on this site Arndt’s draft but it was mysteriously deleted.

    He had a planetary weapon in his story.

    Evil castle?That is something Disney would do.

    • January 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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      Its the “Sith Homeworld” referenced in Mizzlewump’s rumor drop months ago. Another site, I believe it was Star Wars Fanpedia said Luke is being captured there since his powers are the trigger to make it work.

      • January 21, 2015 at 10:19 pm
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        Maybe the ‘unique’ krystal from Luke’s lightsabel is the key that powers the planetary weapon (a bit like car keys starting the car).

      • January 21, 2015 at 11:37 pm
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        I remember that rumour.
        The Sith world was changed to another name
        from Korriban to something else.

        Sigh I keep telling myself to stop reading spoilers .Never helps.

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:21 pm
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      Darth Vader was supposed to have a castle way back in ESB, actually.

      Super weapon = I have a bad feeling about this.

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:31 pm
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    Padawan….I’ll see you on the other side pal! 🙂

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:35 pm
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    Just disappointment added to disappointment.
    First, the possible disregard for GL’s new story-plots, next the news of a heavily estrogen-ladened cast, now a total rehash of the original story….disappointment.
    My interest continues to go down the drain for ep 7 more and more each day that passes and news comes out.
    I even tried watching the teaser, normally I’ll get chills seeing the falcon, hearing the theme, not this time though. Something has left me about this movie.

    • January 21, 2015 at 8:39 pm
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      Pffft… whiner.

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:55 pm
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      I agree

    • January 21, 2015 at 11:20 pm
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      You had me at dissapointed they aren’t using GL’s stories, you lost me at estrogen-laded.

      If it’s a great story and the best actors were chosen for the roles, I don’t see why it should matter.

      • January 22, 2015 at 6:49 am
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        cos its the thing to do, politically correct, thats why it sucks

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:40 pm
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    Sun crusher !

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:22 pm
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      world devastator

      • January 22, 2015 at 12:41 am
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        I was thinking it reminds me of Man Of Steel weapon to remake earth.

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:49 pm
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    Remake-Alert!

    • January 21, 2015 at 9:02 pm
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      This is Abrams after all. Wrath of Khan, etc.

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:52 pm
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    What’s with the hate for super weapons? I say bring it on… I mean even though Death Star II was just a death star, it was different enough that it felt unique… and an iconic part of the SW Saga… I’d like to see where they take it. + I think it’s badass if Leia is tasked with destroying it!

    Is that Yavin IV you guys think?

  • January 21, 2015 at 8:54 pm
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    LOL, they failed already with two Death Stars… third time lucky!

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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    Calm down fan boys. Your so over reactive. We have no idea what this is or how it’s going be used. It could be no more than an Easter egg prop.

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:05 pm
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    The concept of a planet based super weapon is not news..this was already leaked a long time ago. and apparently the weapon is not the Empire’s but a weapon produced by the rebellion.As well as Leia being the new leader has also been leaked months ago..

    • January 25, 2015 at 7:59 pm
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      So we are getting the opposite of a New Hope
      but the rebels are the bad guys this time around.

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:21 pm
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    Yeah..third time’s a charm

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:23 pm
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    Maybe the twist with this superweapon is that it won’t be stopped in time? Or that it is used BY the heroes? Lucas had an idea for Jedi where the Rebels confiscated a superweapon (some kind of giant “gun”, I think) and used it to blow up the Emperor.

    • January 21, 2015 at 9:51 pm
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      “Your methods of archaeology are too primitive for me. You would use a bulldozer to find a… China cup.”

      • January 22, 2015 at 12:16 am
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        Raiders reference! YES!!

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:30 pm
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    This looks too similar to the Battle on Yavin in the ROTJ. Maybe this is used as one of the rumored flashbacks from the OT that ties ROTJ to the new trilogy in TFA.

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:36 pm
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    Well I’m just relieved that there was a mention of Leia. I was concerned about the lack of any rumors about her.

  • January 21, 2015 at 9:56 pm
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    Can we think of another possible threat that the Empire could pose besides a planet-destroying super-weapon? Any ideas?

  • January 21, 2015 at 10:06 pm
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    Centerpoint Station.

  • January 21, 2015 at 10:08 pm
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    That’s the creativity of the new people handling Star Wars? That’s a shame.
    “-Look, we need a new super weapon. I want a new death star. Any ideas guys?
    – Ehhh, what about a planet weapon? We can call it Death Planet.
    – Wow, that’s revolutionary. That’s what we gonna do.”

    Seriously, we don’t need any super weapons to make a good Star Wars movie that resemble the originals. We don’t see a super weapon in Empire Strikes Back and it’s the best Star Wars movie in my opinion.

    Episode I did not have any super weapon, but a super army, nothing like a death star. But they made a space battle that resembled A New Hope.

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:15 pm
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      Who knows if the rumor of the super weapon is even true? Do you guys realize how much misdirection has probably been leaked on purpose to throw everyone off?

      Let the movie be released before you start bashing…I mean honestly 4 people in this chat could come together with a minimal budget and make better movies than the garbage we got in the Prequels. If nothing else be cautiously optimistic that no matter what it can’t get any worse than those 3 abominations.

  • January 21, 2015 at 10:10 pm
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    Boggles my mind how people are getting bent out of shape by the fact Lucas’s version of the script won’t be used.

    Uh…hello? The guy just created 3 of the worst movies ever put on film and was part of the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls fiasco. “Strange Magic” doesn’t look much better….why is it such heresy to say that the guy was once great (Original Trilogy + First 3 Indy Jones) but then he simply lost it? It happens in every walk of life from film making to sports…

    I consider it a good thing and I’d be willing to bet Abrahms is going to do a hell of a job on Episode 7. Excited for the future of the franchise while being thankful of the past Lucas originally gave us. That’s the attitude we should all take.

    • January 21, 2015 at 10:58 pm
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      In just your opinion.

      I like all 6 MOVIES. Both PT and OT. As many do.

      Do not act, as if your opinion is a fact.

      • January 21, 2015 at 11:30 pm
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        AMEN

      • January 22, 2015 at 1:55 am
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        Sorry homeboy..it’s a fact. Those are 3 of the worst movies ever put on film.

        Out of curiosity…how old are you? I have to think you have to be really young to hold those things anything above “horrible”.

        • January 22, 2015 at 8:54 am
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          So, Mr.Fact, can you even discuss without even bringing up age? Last trick in the book. This guy gave you an actual intelligent answer.

        • January 22, 2015 at 5:56 pm
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          That´s probably the reason behind these films´ huge commercial succes and generaly positive critical reception.

          • January 22, 2015 at 8:37 pm
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            As if either of those factors decide whether or not a movie totally blows, because that’s obviously not the case with the prequels.
            Anything with “Star Wars” in the title is bound for commercial success.
            Ever heard of the Original Trilogy?

    • January 22, 2015 at 12:30 am
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      AMEN TO THAT

    • January 22, 2015 at 3:28 am
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      I do believe the guy has a wild and brilliant imagination that he utilized to great (if not perfect) success in the beginning.

      Frankly, George Lucas is a weird guy who was the only person who could invent such out-there things as Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Thank God for his weird brilliance, but, frankly, now he’s just weird and bizarrely careful and boring.

  • January 21, 2015 at 10:17 pm
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    nooooooooooooooo

    there is another.

    NO! that’s not true that’s impossible.

  • January 21, 2015 at 10:18 pm
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    Lame…
    Death Star again… really?!

    I hope it is a false rumor.

  • January 21, 2015 at 10:27 pm
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    I’m not going to get upset about something i don’t even have a clue about if it is true.

    I will wait till the movie is out. Getting upset about rumors and speculations is just dumb.

  • January 21, 2015 at 11:16 pm
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    J.J. Abrams is a master of adopting other filmmakers style. One only needs to watch Super 8 to see that. So initially I thought he would be a perfect choice to reset the OT tone for the sequel trilogy.

    But after Star Trek: Into Darkness I am legitimately concerned about his propensity to want to redo other people’s “greatest hits”. Therefore this super weapon crap is quite disconcerting. The reason I stopped reading the EU many moons ago was in large part thanks to Kevin J. Anderson’s terrible Jedi Academy trilogy, and it’s ridiculously stupid Sun Crusher.

    • January 22, 2015 at 12:30 am
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      Well said. My thoughts exactly.

      The blatant rip off of Wrath of Kahn but reversing characters, leads me to believe this rumor is true.

  • January 21, 2015 at 11:20 pm
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    “Whatever the case it appears that the super weapon rumor is very far from a fan fiction.”

    No, fan fiction is exactly what it is.

  • January 21, 2015 at 11:34 pm
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    Legit or not, this would be consistent with “Mizzlewump,” who remains the most (and only IMO) reliable insider.

  • January 21, 2015 at 11:36 pm
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    Oh god, I hope it’s not a Death Star III. Even if it’s a superweapon that’s supposedly “planet based” and powerful enough to destroy a whole system, it will still hark back to the notion of a frickin Death Star. Come on…

  • January 22, 2015 at 12:04 am
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    Maybe it used the planets gravity to sling object at other planets like a catapult if they release the object from the planets gravity at the right time they could probably attack any planet or moon.

  • January 22, 2015 at 12:22 am
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    It looks like a weapon that uses gravity to ‘push’ a planet out of orbit…

  • January 22, 2015 at 12:47 am
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    Better not be a 3rd Death Star.

    As for not using Lucas’s ideas, 1st off I believe they are (see my post on article before this) and even if they are completely NOT using his stuff, so what?

    The PT’s story lines were terrible. I dont care if you like them, good for you. I like them too because they are Star Wars movies, doesnt change fact. Also the biggest thing Lucas did was create from scratch, this whole other Galaxy full of strange beings and space ships and really cool stuff.

    Thank you George. Now that his Galaxy exists, it is certainly possible for other people to create stories about such Galaxy.

    As for Lucas, YES creative people lose touch with their own creations, eventually. RR Martins first 3 books of the Fire and Ice saga are amazing, the last 2 books, uggh. Robert Jordans ‘Wheel of Time’ series got so bogged down people were ready to burn down his publishers house. Even his son said Robert had simply “dried up” on the whole thing.

    Again thank you George for creating Star Wars, its crazy amazing. But im ok with fresh creative minds creating new stories in your universe….

  • January 22, 2015 at 1:13 am
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    To the anonymous posters up at the top who believe there was nothing thought-out about the Prequel trilogy, maybe this will enlighten you:

    http://www.starwarsringtheory.com/

    If you had the time to sit through the Redletter Media reviews of Episodes 1, 2, and 3, then you should be able to devote an equal amount of time to this.

    • January 22, 2015 at 1:27 am
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      This. A thousand times this.

    • January 22, 2015 at 1:30 am
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      That essay blew my freaking mind.

    • January 22, 2015 at 1:46 am
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      Yeah, hopefully Disney and Abrams will stop doing this now that Lucas is gone.

      Deliberate or not, these call backs and repetitions have become tedious and stale. With this sequel saga, it’s an opportunity for a fresh storytelling approach that will hopefully maintain what is TRULY important which is good classic fun adventure in space.

    • January 22, 2015 at 2:01 am
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      Even after reading that…it doesn’t change the fact those Prequels are an absolute abortion. Horrible acting, horrible script, horrible plot.

      Just thinking about that God forsaken scene where one of the scenes we’ve all waited decades to see (the birth of Luke and Leia) consisted of a robot saying “OOOO BAAAHHH” over and over makes me want to kill a Gungan.

      • January 22, 2015 at 2:04 am
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        “Horrible acting, horrible script, horrible plot.”

        I’m just gonna throw this out there, but I get the feeling that you don’t quite understand the craft of acting or screenwriting, or what plot actually is, in storytelling terms.

        • January 22, 2015 at 2:12 am
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          Listen, I’m an accountant…not a movie maker. I’ll put in laymen terms for you…the lines and their delivery were absolutely horrible. The plot (things like Anakin turning to the dark side on the potential hope that doing so could save Padme)…and then having him just randomly slap her even after KNOWING she was potentially in danger as seen in his visions.

          The entire thing felt forced. You got an embargo, trade route issues and a bunch of other stupid political crap that strays from the essence of star wars.

          They’re horrible. I don’t care how much you know about film or whatever….I love Star Wars and can’t sit through those 3 movies no matter how hard I try.

          • January 22, 2015 at 2:42 am
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            Don’t just take it from an accountant, but straight from Harrison Ford, who said Lucas isn’t an actor’s director. Even Hammil mentioned some of that dialogue was just unbearably bad.

            I didn’t mind the oooh baaah actually, what offended me more than anything was the “noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!” (both times).

          • January 22, 2015 at 5:12 am
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            The anonymous poster above, posted a link to starwarsringtheory , as if to say “oh yea? Read this!”

            Well…I always love to hear the other side of a debate regardless of anything else. I read it. It was paragraph after paragraph of the author trying to “explain” why the prequels have merit because if their carefully designed patterns.

            Listen to me you fuck. NO amount of “explaining”, NO amount of literary gymnastics is going to change what an absolute cluster fuck of a cinematic experience those prequels are. And if you think (or that author thinks) that the article is some how more valid than Plinketts reviews, you’re out of your fucking mind. But then if you like the prequels, you’re out of your mind anyway!

            On a side note….not only do I hate the prequels….I think they actually DAMAGE Star Wars itself. Those movies “ruin” the pop cultural credibility of Star Wars.

          • January 22, 2015 at 8:16 am
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            ^^ This. Nothing more need be said.

          • January 22, 2015 at 8:09 pm
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            I quite agree

          • January 22, 2015 at 8:16 pm
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            “TELL ‘EM STEVE DAVE!”

        • January 22, 2015 at 8:20 pm
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          If your goal is to defend the Phantom Menace by making this claim, you’ve got about as much understanding of story development as a nematode.

      • January 22, 2015 at 6:05 am
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        Yes the birth scene was terrible, but liked the Tantive IV corridor.Strange Thing, in one Scene in the PT in the backround there is the millenium falcon flying, later as I watched it at home, I wished I could have seen the adventures of the Crew instead of the boring movie in upfront.

  • January 22, 2015 at 1:19 am
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    Spooky masked villain and a planet destroying super-weapon.. good to see they’ve got fresh new ideas happening.

  • January 22, 2015 at 4:12 am
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    Some anonymous person up above claimed that there was nothing thought-out about the Prequels. The ring structure essay proves that they were in fact VERY thought-out, even if the plotting is unconventional and the performances aren’t to your taste. I’m not defending those latter issues, just sayin’ that if you ascribe to Redletter Media’s assessment that Lucas just banged out the scripts without thinking, then you’re ignorant of what he was attempting to do and how much thought he put into it.

    • January 22, 2015 at 4:23 am
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      Exactly! The ring theory essay makes that clear on page 1!

    • January 22, 2015 at 8:15 pm
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      Even GL himself admitted that there were lots of things he wished could’ve been done differently, and felt that the film’s production was very rushed.You’re petty excuses cannot justify the mistakes made by George and his team when developing the prequels, but keep ’em coming. You’re only wasting your time.

  • January 22, 2015 at 4:41 am
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    Star Wars was left to long to make prequels ! Everybody then created there own idea of what they would be like! In fact Star Wars has become so big that the expanded universe has been created! And every type of Star Wars fan has there own opinion! I also like the idea that jj has done and totally scrapped the expanded universe! But again a lot of you out there like the expanded universe and will think the new film will suck! All I’m trying to say is Star Wars has become so large that It’s an impossible task to please every single fan! I am personally looking forward to the new film! And let’s face it no matter how bad you think the new Star Wars is if at the time you think it is! I know you will still watch it till the end

  • January 22, 2015 at 5:10 am
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    The hype is dying.

  • January 22, 2015 at 5:18 am
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    The ring theory suddenly makes the prequels NOT suck! The prequels are amazing because they have patterns!!!! It all makes sense!

    • January 22, 2015 at 6:30 am
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      In all honesty though, it is pretty unbelievable what he did…

  • January 22, 2015 at 6:13 am
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    I have a bad feelin regarding this super weapon.

    why not come up with new ideas

    maybe the nrw movies will go down as bad fan fiction like pt and most af the EU

  • January 22, 2015 at 6:44 am
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    This has got to be misdirection, right? JJ, please let it be misdirection this time. Star Wars does not need any more Planet destroying super-weapons, it didn’t work in the EU and it’s not going to work on film

  • January 22, 2015 at 7:59 am
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    Remember Knights of the Old Republic? Remember how it’s basically the best Star Wars story since the original trilogy… and maybe even a little better?

    It too had a super weapon. Or forge… whatever you want to call it. It worked out just fine. Stop worrying. We’ll only know it’s good or bad until after we’ve seen it.

    • January 23, 2015 at 10:10 am
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      It was a factory not really a super weapon. That would be like saying a tank factory is a super weapon.

  • January 22, 2015 at 9:35 am
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    OK.,.bash the pt,s all you want…..
    But the new star trek movies absolutely are
    Terrible to the 100th power

  • January 22, 2015 at 12:56 pm
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    Part of me is optimistic about this, but I cant help but feel worried that disney is going to screw it up and make it feel like some sort of high budget fan film.

  • January 22, 2015 at 2:38 pm
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    This catapult weapon makes me believe this movie will indeed use Lucas ideas, beacause thats exactly the kind of real world with an fantasy/sci-fi spin briliant idea that i would expect from him, just like the pod-racers were based on bem-hur racing scenes.

  • January 22, 2015 at 4:25 pm
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    IIRC, the super weapon rumor stems from a time, when Arndt was still involved, so I guess it is a Lucas concept.
    I think that by giving the Big 3 more focus in EPVII, they changed the movie from GL original treatment, but I believe that the arc for the ST as a whole is still preety much intact. After all GL himself changed his original 9 episode story when he decided to scrap the ST in the 80’s and condensed what he had at that time into ROTJ. He changed his own story several times over the years and it did not get better, considering the recent changes to put Hayden into ROTJ and letting Vader scream “NOOOooOOO!” again.
    Regarding KOTS, Spielberg himself said that the whole ape and ant stuff was solely Lucas idea.

    And yes I like the new Trek, even the second one (and yes I loathe the original boring trek movies, only the nerdy losers back in school liked them, while the cool kids were Star Wars fans). The new Trek movies felt more like Star Wars set in the Trek universe, lens flares aside.

    In recent years, mainly through my enjoyment of the mostly brilliant Clone Wars series I have felt the urge to watch the PT again. I liked them a bit better than before, but at some points they still were horrible. As a matter of fact I like EPI more than EPIII, because of the botched turning of Anakin…

  • January 22, 2015 at 7:25 pm
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    agreed, look at the NAZI party

  • January 23, 2015 at 12:45 am
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    “You’re petty excuses cannot justify the mistakes made by George and his team when developing the prequels, but keep ‘em coming. You’re only wasting your time.”

    I’m not making excuses for anything. Go back and re-read my posts. I specifically said I was not attempting to defend the performances and the unconventional plotting. I fully agree that there is plenty of cringe-worthy stuff in the Prequels, but I haven’t become so blinded by those things that I now just mindlessly agree with the notion that George didn’t put any thought into what he was doing when he wrote those scripts.

  • January 23, 2015 at 1:34 am
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    The prop looks like a Hasbro playset for the scene in question. I hope its not a case of Plagueis/Uber merging with the weapon and taking control of it. There was a similar plot point used in the old EU with one of the IG-88 models and the Death Star.

  • January 23, 2015 at 1:59 am
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    One very important word:
    fanedit.org

    Spread the word!

  • January 23, 2015 at 2:03 am
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    My official, go-to versions of the films, via fanedit.org and downloadable from fanedit.info are:

    Episode I: Shadow of the Sith
    Episode II: The Republic Divided
    Episode III: Dawn of the Empire

    You must see to believe how the magic of well done editing can make the prequels watchable.
    Have fun and enjoy!

  • January 23, 2015 at 1:04 pm
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    I`m suspicious of any new spoiler rumours coming out now. I seem to remember reading somewhere, I`m not sure where that a campaign of false rumours and mis-information would break out this year. Allthough I want to belive it. Gotta be aware of the dis-information or mis-direction campaign(what ever its called) well thought out bullshit is belivable if planned out enough.

  • January 25, 2015 at 7:14 am
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    I’m sure there were quotes a few months back from extras in the cantina scene talking about having to go outside and look up at something big exploding?? This fits in rather nicely.
    Curious thought – why are the Imperial’s raiding on “desert planet’ (Tatooine?), where Skywalker III just happens to live and testing their weapon on something (a moon?) in the same system … curious

    Second – the Arndt script. Before selling to Disney Lucas lined up Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher, but not Harrison Ford and I remember an early draft of ROTJ had Han die on Endor, I’m guessing Han didn’t play a role in Lucas’s drafts for VII-IX and thus Arndt’s script. I guess they kept the option open of a cameo but Harrison Ford only agreed if he got a major part rather and dropping Han into the centre of the Arndt script was the big re-write.

  • January 25, 2015 at 6:42 pm
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    Maybe the Empire believes in “3rd time lucky” or “3rd times the charm” and will build a new Death Star that can’t be Destroyed by a spaceship and doesn’t have an exhaust tunnel big enough for an x-wing to fly through to shoot it’s power source.

    Mathe they have better engineering design

  • January 25, 2015 at 8:04 pm
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    I guess it will be a remake after all.

  • January 26, 2015 at 11:44 am
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    That’s no moon….

    It’s the 3rd Death Star.

  • February 2, 2015 at 11:09 pm
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    Based on the new rumor, the new Death Star is Galactic (New) Republic in origin? Two superweapons one is the Empire/Sith on the Sith homeworld (getting sick of trying to figure out where this is) which may or may not involve Luke in captivity and there is the Republic Star. Feels like more disinformation to contradict other rumors like Disney has been trying to leak on purpose to confuse everyone.

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