Speculation: Domhnall Gleeson’s Character Might Not Be Who You’d Expect in The Force Awakens.
There has been a lot of speculation flying around about who Domhnall Gleeson will play in The Force Awakens. One of our Cantina members had a brilliant idea… and it isn’t the son of Skywalker. Find out what he thinks, and the evidence that very well may support him, after the jump.
Like everyone else, we have been pouring over all the rumors trying to figure out what part Domhnall Gleeson will play in The Force Awakens. Lately, the buzz has pointed to him being the son of Luke Skywalker, with the rumor that he has turned coat and is working for the Imperials (HERE). There was even a bogus Twitter posting by some rabid fanboy posing as Gleeson (one that couldn’t even spell his name right) that has since been removed and debunked. Although this didn’t necessarily disconfirm the theory that Gleeson is playing Luke’s kid, the son of Skywalker angle never sat right with some fans. But one of our faithful members, Kramgnol, had a brilliant idea.
“I think he will be Major Tarkin. Look at his sunken in cheeks in that picture.”
We know from the Battlefront rumor breakdown by Making Star Wars that there could be a character named Tarkin in the film, and they already uncovered an interesting information about an armband with that name on it.
Also it is pretty evident that Tarkin will be very important character in the new Star Wars canon. The latest novel being considered canon in the new Star Wars era was James Luceno’s “Tarkin”, released last year. Also recently Tarkin made an appearance in Star Wars: Rebels and he was an important part of The Clone Wars. Having all this in mind, we have to agree that it makes sense to see a descendant of Tarkin in The Force Awakens. Probably a grandson?
From all TFA cast members, Gleeson looks like the best candidate for that role. Also let me remind you what Gleeson said in an interview back in June 2014, when asked if he is playing Luke Skywalker’s son:
“I’m afraid if I say anything [about my character], I’ll give away the plot of the whole movie.”
This is very curious indeed. Obviously Gleeson will have a crucial role in the movie, and I really believe that he will be related to a character from the original trilogy. Of course this is just a speculation based on the things we’ve heard.
As with all breaking news, we will keep our eyes and ears out for new evidence, but until something firm comes along, this will give you something to Tarkin ’bout… a li’l mystery Kramgnol may have figured out…
And just for the record, we’re very far from believing that we invented the wheel with that post. I’m sure that many people before us speculated about that possibility. Actually so far Gleeson was rumored to be Luke’s son, a descendant of Obi-Wan, Count Dooku or a new character. My bet is on Tarkin. What do you think? Who is Gleeson playing in TFA?
Special thanks to Cantina Staff member TIDMADT for this article.
Grant has been a fan of Star Wars for as long as he can remember, having seen every movie on the big screen. When he’s not hard at work with his college studies, he keeps himself busy by reporting on all kinds of Star Wars news for SWNN and general movie news on the sister site, Movie News Net. He served as a frequent commentator on SWNN’s The Resistance Broadcast.
Madine.
Funny, he does remind me of Crix Madine.
He is the love child of Luke and gov. Tarkin. He’s married to boba fetts daughter and they have a family dog which is cewbaca’s sister
Kylo Ren.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with this.
lol
Mon mothma’s grandson
Definitely Tarkin…
He’s playing the part of Darth Dave, a shadowy underworld afternoon boozehound who loves the fanny.
Dont we all?
No! 😀
Along with the other recent plot rumors, I’m seriously starting to worry that this is going to be a remake of A New Hope.
It definitely will. It’s JJ after all.. Also flashbacks and teal and orange color grading all over the place.
orange color grading? o-0
Yes http://priceonomics.com/why-every-movie-looks-sort-of-orange-and-blue/ and Abrams seems to like it alot, just look at STID.
Nothing about TFA, rumors and teaser included, resemble ANH. Stop being so negative,!
what in the rumor resembles a new hope:
1) The misterious super weapon
2) If I got it right there is rumored an opening battle where an astromech droid is missing
3) Tatooine
4) destruction of the superweapon at the end of the film
4 plot points are too much to me
Not to mention a rescue/escape from an Imperial space station
and everybody is related to someone…..not that big this galaxy is, after all….
Everybody’s Tarkin at me…
This is indeed a remake of a new hope when all the details started to emerge about this flick i new he was attempting to remake or put his own personal spin on a new hope just as he did star trek if this is the case i’m not interested in seeing this movie at all and would rather have seen lucas directing this film as much as i hate to admit it.
Jedi master guarding a secret tomb. A stormtrooper that leaves the Empire and is in hiding….living in an AT&T as daughter to rebel heroes….someone who collects sith artifacts….wow identical.
No one said identical, genius. We’re just saying that there’s an uncomfortable amount of similarities.
Living in an AT&T? Is she guarding the smartphones?
I think YOU hit the nail on the head with THAT one!!
No, the dumb phones. The At-At houses Homer Simpson and two other power plant employees (one possibly a recently revived Jar Jar Binks from carbonite)and they are told to carefully guard the bee in the jar because it has incredible ties to the Force.
Not the Force Bees
You must not read the rumors John.
Better that than a prequel
That probably has more to do with the lack of creativity of he fans who start the rumors than it does about the real movie
Mistake in the article above. Tarkin was NOT the first new canon novel. It was the second. The first was John Jackson Miller’s “A New Dawn.”
Corrected.
Maybe this “Tarkin” in Gwendoline Christie. It would make sense with the other rumors about her character.
I agree. I think that would be MUCH better, having tarkin’s daughter be some inquisitor or high ranking chrometrooper. Besides, for now I am in the pro-skywalker camp. I never really cared to learn about tarkin’s offspring, but this movie would feel less like star wars without a new skywalker IMO.
Amen to that, brother, and let it be Rey! Skywalker, not Solo
I’d much rather see Tom Hiddleston play a Tarkin.
I called this as soon as the Tarkin armband was leaked last week.
Could be both 😐 I am not necessarily against the idea of Luke Skywalker hooking up with one of Tarkins daughters/granddaughteBut honestly
Its far more likely he is Luke Skywalkers son… And I think its more likely he is a double-agent than a traitor to the republic/rebels.
He is going to be portrayed as a villain throughout the whole movie, until the main characters are trapped in a brig on a Star Destroyer or something at which poit Domhnall Gleeson will free them and take them to Luke Skywalker.
Looks alone would tell me Luke’s son. However they have this thing called ‘hair dye’?
why would he need hair dye? Blonde father, red haired mother, good odds for a red haired kid from my understanding of it.
Mara Tarkin
Could very well be a relative of tarkin the original casting sheet did mention > “A man of around thirty or so, this one is an intellectual type”.tarkin was a sort of intellectual type and Gleeson does have a similar look to him.
I don’t see it. However make up etc could do the trick.
Tarkin + Mon Mothma, during Rebels’ 2nd season. MANY Bothans died…. 😉
You want to talk different, mind blowing theories, how about this one: A NEW character no one has heard about yet? Yeah, I’ll go with that one for now.
You and i know that’s not going to happen…..
it´s Disney…. 🙂
Well technically, the son of Tarkin or Skywalker would be a new character.
Either way, I’m still holding out hope that Luke will have a kid. It could end up being a shocker. Besides Gleeson and Ridley, is there anyone else among the new cast who looks like any of the following:
– Luke Skywalker
– Leia Organa
– Anakin Skywalker
– Padme Amidala
– Shmi Skywalker
– The Force
– or Midi-Chlorian?
Maisie Richardson-Sellers?
Yes Catherine Billie Lourdes looks like Princess Leia.
No, she looks like Paul Simon
I think he will be a wizard who helps fight against You-Know-Who and marries a Hot French babe in the last movie……….and has raw steaks for dinner!!!! Too much speculation….just let the movie happen!!! With Ahsoka Tano too…..she’s an awesome character that my kids LOVED!!!!
your kids might not love to see here at 90 years of age, which is the age she would be!!! Come on try just a tiny bit of maths?
Tarkin died. He was a cool bad guy. But he died. His grandson showing up is like the jango-boba fett stupidly again. Why does Star Wars have to endlessly connect everyone over and over and over. And some fans love this shit. It means something to them. Everyone’s got to be related like general hospital. It’s fucking stupid I hate it.
The ” the jango-boba fett stupidly again” is purely a fabrication, there is nothingeven slightly stupid about it.
People pretended it was stupid because they didn’t want to admit that they were just mad that Boba Fetts origins didnt fit their stupid childhood fan fictions.
People have kids dude, this is somethign that happenes to people. Its not a rare event in the slightest.
And their kids dont self destruct when they die.
the point was we don´t want to see the background of our favourite characters, because they wouldn´t be that cool anymore..
No everyone wants to see it, they just don’t want it to be different than what they imagine.
Which is childish and narcissistic. And you cant lie to me, or spin what you are thinking and tryto make your opinions sound deeper than they are.
Im a Star Wars fan too, you bet your ass I used to think that way. Problem is I grew up and I realized that I was just being a petty narcissistic bitter child that was angry I wasnt getting things my way.
How does having a history make a character magically not cool by the way? That idea is so random that it doesn’t even make sense.
It was unnecessary and childish.
Like most stories … the plot centers around a group of people. Why is it so hard to imagine that the relatives of these people would be important. I suspect that we only get 1 or 2 relatives. Why wouldn’t the son of say Luke or Leia be important? We have many real world examples (especially in sports) where children of famous people continue in the footsteps of their parents. (Note how I share a difference in opinion without resorting to insults … yeesh)
If he is indeed a major, then the rank directly under him would be captain. Major Tarkin would therefore be the direct superior of a…Captain Phasma (Gwendoline Christie). The shoe fits!
Also, the conflict that we can presume that takes place between Leia (and her dilemma over using a republic built death star to take out a with weapon) against a slim shady Major Tarkin (who wants to rid the Galaxy of super weapons) revisits the conflict between Elder Tarkin and Leia in A New Hope…only in reverse, sort of, with lots is shades of grey. Again, the shoe fits.
Ahhhh!I wish the preview was out all ready! I’m sick of all this damm speculation!
Luke’s son
why do I have the bad feeling this would be either a copycat of star wars episode IV or some sorta reboot like the first star trek….
I´ve been having the same idea for some time now. Not Tarkin per se, but an imperial officer.
If Luke does have a son and disappears for 3o years without seeing him after he is just born. When does he have time to raise the kid? Also the recent flood of rumors sounds like deliberate misinformation from Abrams and company. In fact I think one of our 4chan friends could have been part of that bad leak.
I just really don’t want this to be a star wars “greatest hits”. Of course have some fun fanservice lines and cameos by fan favorites, but make it original. I know its all just rumors and it will most likely be awesome, but i am worried. Back on tatooine? whispers of a New Death Star? A New Tarkin?
In star trek into darkness it felt like wrath of kahn with the kirk/spok roles flipped. I really hope this dosn’t feel like A New Hope with the leia/tarkin roles flipped. You can create grey areas and complexity without just doing a binary switch JJ!
So basically it’s a revenge movie..count me in !
So, is Daala his mommy? LoL
So “sunken in cheeks” automatically means tarkin? No one ever heard of a make-up department?
What’s next? Every brunette who can rock a gold bikini is Leia’s daughter?
What about the rumour of a flashback scene is introducing us to one of the spin offs and this will involve Tarkin?
Gleeson may only have the small part in TFA in order to build for his part in the other movie
Gleeson is rumored, what else would it be, appearing in the present with Christie, Driver and Serkis on thr same side. There are set photos of him with Driver in an XWing uniform and Christie with no helmet on walking on a planet that looks like Yavin. I strongly think hes involved in the present timeline.
didnt he have a beard while filming?
Yes. His beard is the stunt double for Mark Hamill’s beard!
“I’m afraid if I say anything [about my character], I’ll give away the plot of the whole movie.”
If he was related to Tarkin I don’t think it would give away the plot of the entire movie. On the other hand if he was Luke’s son that would definitely be a plot driving character.
Makes me wonder if the Imperials in the Death Star conference room, including Tarkin, now represent the hub of the ruling Imperial families and some or many will have descendants carrying their infamous surnames and continuing their pokitical agendas? Tagge survived the Battle of Yavin according to the new continuity so perhaps his kin will feature in the sequel trilogy.
It would be a pointless nod to the OT surely.
Oh look he’s Grand Moff Tarkin’s grandson. What does it mean? Absolutely nothing, he’s just angry that the rebels killed grandpa.
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Tarkin is supposed to be not so nice. Why would his grandson angry about his death?
What if Gleeson played a much younger Tarkin in a flashback scene that somehow tied in with TFA?
This rumor makes zero sense. Tarkin would be waaaay too old to be this guy’s dad. The would have died at the age of 70 about 10-15 years before this guy was even born.
No one said he is his son. Read the article again.
I don’t know if any of you mentioned this above. It’s pretty obvious that he’s not Skywalker’s son. Why? Cause he’s British. Tarkin and Kenobi are both European. So I’m putting my money on those two
Really? You think that ?
My best guess.. I mean offspring are supposed to resemble their parents in a way . He does have physical similarities to both kenobi and tarkin. Plus he has the accent to go with it. So yes, I’m sticking with it.
Children raised in a different part of the world (e.g. USA and U.K.) can easily end up having different accents from their parents.
He also has Leia’s British accent from the 1st film ANH.
she DID have a bit of an accent…all I can think of now is “slip through your fingas”. who was she kidding?
He has a Dublin accent.
British! How dare you! He’s Irish.
He’s no more British than you are Miguel.
He could be the love child of Tarkin and leia. He was conceived on the death star in a new hope, and kept hidden to protect him. After all a new hope shows you only a few scenes of them together on the death star. Leia could have given him her body in exchange for leniency and less planets being destroyed by Tarkin. At this stage anythings possible. What a twist to the story this would be.
Thank you for the comment! That’s the funniest comment I’ve read in awhile!
Really doubt hes a tarkin. There is nothing at all to back that up. Wishful thinking. He could be anybody. Silly. How about some real news. There is the big rumor now that J.J. wants to move the film up to this summer. How about that?
We are not posting rumors that are 100% fake. I’ve already stated several times that this rumor is false on Twitter and the Cantina. Blame the sites spreading this nonsense coming from a site with 3 false stories from 3 tries.
Take every rumour that comes out between now and Dec 18th with a large pinch of salt, and then dismiss it! It’s most likely a red herring.
Luke hooked up with Tarkin’s daughter and the result was Domhnall, who goes by his mum’s last name.
Whining about whining. Nice. I agree with the op. This site has had nothing for weeks if not months accept nonsense and affiliate offers.
What do you want from them? The cold hard truth is there is often nothing of substance to report for weeks at a time. If these articles don’t hold you over for the next big scoop, just do something else.
Whining changes nothing.
I remember someone posting a while back that he will be playing a young Palpitine in a flashback scene.
Also there was that leaked photo of the cast at Common Greens showing a group of guys .
And if Gleeson was in that photo he could be a rebel pilot.
Noooo. Gleeson is a sweetheart. Getting him to play a cold hearted general is like getting Alec Guiness to play batman. It doesn’t fit.
Check our Shadow Dancer, where he plays a cold-bloodied IRA killer.
My own favorite rumour is that he’s Ben Skywalker.
Considering all of the rumors so far, I’m willing to bet that Gleeson is indeed a Tarkin. There are too many hints to not see it.
Connections… or misdirection?
As if we needed any more connections to the OT
Oh please, he wasn’t the first one to think of Gleeson as a Tarkin descendant.
I posted this theory two days before he did, and for all we know, he took the idea from me.
http://thecantina.starwarsnewsnet.com/index.php?threads/domhnall-gleeson-in-tfa.955/page-14#post-46567
BG
This might be the flimsiest speculation so far. “They mentioned a Tarkin and look how sunken Gleeson’s cheeks look in this picture!”
(facepalm)
Anything is possible at this point because we know so little, but at least the son of Luke rumor came with an explanation of how he fits into the plot and a supposed source (even if it could be bogus).
This is just one guy saying, “you know what I think?” Even if it turns out to be true it’s such a shot in the dark this dude should have been playing Powerball the day he came up with this.
Chill out guys. This is just a speculation article. If the rumors are true about the Tarkin name being in TFA then who from all the cast members seems like a possible contender for the role? Exactly, it’s Gleeson. Still it’s only a guess.
Well other than cheekbones, he does bare a striking resemblence to Tarkin..
Chewbacca’s son obviously!
Yo not to be that guy, but I totally predicted this just a week ago. https://twitter.com/MGSmithers/status/562763507016663040
He’s Luke’s son. The tomb entrance Luke is guarding is MJ’s. She holds the key the voice over in the trailer is having Rylo retrieve.
i know who is luke son his name is cade skywalker on star wars the force awakens that why the movie come out this summer its will be may 19 or may 25 2015 following two 3d star wars movies this year may the force be with you always
Stop being asshole nerd fanboys. You realize that no one gives a shit about fanboys.
He is a Skywalker trying to be greater than his dad and could cause more pain in the end. Plus I think max von sydow is Boba fett.
Gleeson as a new jedi (son of luke, but we wont know that in that movie, at leat not until the end… or son of leia, rey’s twin) that is in being correupted to the dark side. Serkis as a the emperor’s clone. Lupita as a rebel leader. Adam Driver I really dont know, but maybe still kylo ren… but ren and rey, could they be somehow related? Serkis also as a kind of Yoda. Von Sydow as imperial general or something. Gwen christie as a sith lord, darth something…
I would like to believe, it sounds like you didn’t read any spoilers before 🙂
“You fools! Don’t you know who I am?! My grandpa, was your grandpas boss on the first Death Star! My grandpa held your mom and dead prisoner in the Death Star! Haha that’s right! My grandpas boss manipulated the midi clorians to create your grandpa, who was later saved by your Jedi master! Haha I am the grand son of Tarkin! Haha you fools!”
I swear, there are two seperate types of Star Wars fans. The intelligent ones who enjoy the magic of the original films….and then the complete fucking morons who love anything Star Wars. I hope to God JJ isn’t stupid enough to make “the grandson or relative of Tarkin” a major character in this movie. It’s beyond idiotic.
You know that scene in Bond where Mr. White says something to the effect of “Just when we think MI6 is about to find out [Quantum], we realize you really don’t know anything about us”. Yeah. That.
yes this makes so much sense.
Axl Rose?
this flashback talk is a bummer. i hate flashbacks in movies. the story shouldnt need to be crutched by something that happened in a different time period. anh was so great because it began right in the middle of a saga. there was no flashback to try and explain what happened in the epI-III, they just told stories and let our imaginations do the rest.
no flashbacks.
my cousin is friends with gleeson. the only info gleeson has given us (my cousin) is that he plays a more significant role than most people are speculating. he said his character is a huge twist and will be a huge surprise when his character is revelaed in the trailer with the avengers. the next trailer will focus on luke, leia, han, chewbacca, gleeson’s character, and driver’s character and will be about 2 minutes long.
Palpatine is ginger, and he resembles a young palpatine more then Tarkin.
I thought tarkin died when the first death star blew up…
“’m afraid if I say anything [about my character], I’ll give away the plot of the whole movie.”
Saying he’s Tarkins Grandson, isn’t a major plot.
But saying he’s the son of Skywalker, would.
@ thereisanother
Correct. Being Tarkins grandson wouldn’t change the plot dynamics to such an earthshattering degree which Gleeson is implying his characters reveal would.
He’s a Skywalker. Take it to the bank.
I said this When he was cast. Ages ago.
Didn’t Tarkin get blown to hell in the original deathstar’s destruction??
He got better.
I think he will play Mon Mothma’s cousin’s wife’s son from a previous marriage on Mothma’s mother side.
He plays the tail of Jabba, who survived. Also Jabba is a girl, a lesbian one.
Eggs aren’t the only thing that can end up scrambled!
And of course the rumor dump at Making Star Wars is Spoilerbro 4chan wannabe. Jason’s fault for posting it in the first place. I assume it was in the name of good fun to try and pull this person along and see how long it would last. Either way, you have sources. Cyborg Luke out.
Suppose if Ward gets a leaked script as he hints at and the Skywalker son rumor is true it contradicts Mizzlewump. If not, then Mizzlewump once again outlasts another rumor dump.
Going by Mizzlewump and bouncing all the latest rumor shenanigans off his list you want to think whatever’s out there it will still be true. No Skywalker son and Rey is Han and Leia’s child. Kylo Ren could be Han’s son or a secret son from other previous marriage not related to Leia. I don’t think he is the son of Palpatine as some recent rumor suggested. Good god, this speculation is off the wall. Show some restraint!