An Alternative Possibility for A Popular The Force Awakens Spoiler?
The following post should be considered a major spoiler, so BEWARE! While this report is about something discussed numerous times in the past, it also gives a possible alternative that’s worth mentioning…
MAJOR SPOILERS!
From Epicstream:
A source from the set for a popular TV series reached out to us, and said that he spoke to a fellow supporting actor who claimed that he was involved in Star Wars: The Force Awakens for a week or two. He shared some bad news about one of the major characters of the movie. Here’s the info the actor shared to Epicstream.com:
“He watched a scene being shot at Greenham common airbase in which Leia is sad and says ‘I don’t know how he will cope without him’, my source told me Han Solo dies, I quizzed him and he said he just presumed, I then asked who was she talking to, he said a couple of Wookiees but now Chewy, I asked him could you have meant that Chewy dies, he said that might of been the case, he didn’t know just that one of them does.’
So as I said this is not something we hear for the first time. Han Solo dying in TFA has been rumored since the start of filming. One of our sources told us long ago, that Han Solo is not present in the final “wave bye bye shot” of the movie, probably meaning that he didn’t make it. Still don’t forget that he was not present at the end of TESB, so everything is possible. We also have to point out that MakingStarWars reported in the past that they got their hands on documents proving that the scene with Han Solo dying was filmed.
Although I am pretty convinced that Solo will indeed die in TFA, I like the alternative this report gives us. So what if, it’s actually Chewie who dies? I think it’s a topic worth discussing. What do you think? Is this possible or are we grasping at straws, refusing to believe that our favorite nerfherder will be gone forever. Or at least until the second Anthology movie about the young Han Solo. Maybe they green-lit the Han Solo Anthology movie, exactly because Han Solo dies. It’s a way to keep the character alive. Still the second Anthology movie will be released after Episode VIII, so maybe that’s when Solo will meet his end? Tell us what you think.
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He’s dead meat. I like the idea. It could add real weight to the struggle in the movie and provide major motivation for our heroes, especially for his daughter Rey! HAHAH! FIRST!
chewie were home…and dead.
new meme han died first
“Chewie… We’re home” ……. “Chewie… We’re dead”
But Chewie had already died crushed by that moon
Its a space fantasy. Why would I want to see my hero perish? I rather they send Han and Leia to a retirement planet.
Fantasy in which a hero or a number of heroes die: Boromir in Lord of the Rings, A number of the dwaven company in The Hobbit, Oedipus in Oedipus at Colonus, Jesus in The Bible, Everyone in Game of Thrones, Leslie from The Bridge to Terribithia.
I am going to cry, that’s what I think.
Couldn’t Leia be talking to the Wookies about Chewie coping without Han? Basically, “I don’t know how Chewie will cope without Han”
That’s the first thought that came to mind when I read this post. It makes more sense to have Han die. Chewie is in mourning and Leia’s concerned for him (Chewie) and talking with the other Wookies hoping they can figure out a way to console Chewie.
I disagree, it makes more sense to have Chewie die. if you are keeping the life debt idea as a plot point it makes more sense for Chewie to die. You get a lot of emotional impact from Chewie dying and do not choose to leave in a lesser skilled actor, Chewie, and write out your most talented actor in the cast. Han without Chewie is a very intriguing character to me and a serious question as to what happens to the character.
Mala and lumpy lol,
Either Luke, Leia, or Han dies. My guess is that Luke sacrifices himself, then he appears as a force ghost to guide Rey or others.
In the only, ten second scene Luke is in the movie?
How so? Does he take the lightsaber from Rey, discovering that it is a bomb and sacrifices himself?
I deject the rumor that Luke is only in the movie for 10 sec; as well as, that the opening scene involves his hand and lightsaber floating in space and “hitting” a planet.
Its just the lightsabre, the hand bs has been debunked.
Why is this rumor about Luke being in the movie for 10 seconds come up in every friggin post? Seriously? What a crappy movie this will be if that’s true
I think TFA will be worse then TPM
Thank you. That made me laugh.
I think han dying would be extremely sad but makes the most sense. also i think harrison wants this to be his final epic movie moment. its gonna be a tragic loss but also very deep and help push the story forward if rey is related to him. maybe each of the big three wil die in a movie. han in 7 leia and chewie in 8 and luke in 9.
NO! Copying ObiWan’s fate would be a terrible idea. Time to make something NEW
Don’t worry I’m sure he won’t end up a force ghost. Han is a non-believer remember.
If chewie’s gonna die I just really want to see him rip the arms off something first
I also hope that if Luke dies that he pulls the ears off a Gundark first.
A gundark?
geek cred revoked
omg yes seize that mans geek card immediately.
Untuck his shirt!
Take his glasses and give him perfect vision
Take his books and comics…. And give him…. Pride and prejudice!
(Disclaimer: just drawing on the old 90’s stereotype of geeks 🙂 not actual geek for there is no standard appearance for us awesome hoomans)
if one of them is dying, it absolutely will NOT be Chewy. Chewy is the loyal dog. You don’t kill the dog. You could. But given the writers of this film… I doubt they would do it. Now Solo is a different story. That’s the character that would have the most meaning out of his death.
I first thought that killing Chewie may be an option due to Peter’s ill health but at the end of the day they would just recast someone for the suit.
No disrespect to Peter
To quote Darth Vader, if this happens…
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I can see Chewie sacrificing himself to save Han or his daughter. He has a life debt to Han.
Whoever will die, it will be a helluva emotional scene.
I agree, for Han to die when Chewie’s life debt means their relationship is so personal, would destroy Chewie who would consider himself to be a failure. He would be forever embarrassed by his status as the one whose life was saved but he couldn’t return the favour. So Han won’t die. At least yet. But for Chewie to die whilst saving Han would make perfect dramatic sense.
NEVER.
It would be stupid from Disney to kill him in Ep7. Chewy is an iconic character, who can follow the next two (8,9) or maybe five (8,9,10,11,12) films (if there will be another trilogy with the new characters.) It would be an own-goal to kill Chewy, becouse the character don’t need really a specific actor,(he should’nt getting old, as a wookie was young enough in the classic films with his 200+ years) but still one of the classic characters, he can serve all his long liftime the offsprings of Han Solo, who saved the life of the “good loyal dog”… 🙂
Han definitely dies.
Kylo Ren kills him, and the irony is that he kills his own father.
At this point it’s clear that they are riffing on the OT themes pretty hard. That’s kind of a Star Wars staple, even certain bits of dialogue that show up in the OT, PT, Clone Wars and Rebels.
If Kylo Ren kills his father it’s a shake up of how Luke had his moment where he was suppose to destroy Vader, but since Kylo Ren is a bad guy, things don’t end so well for our hero.
I highly doubt Chewbacca will die. He is a huge marketing asset for Disney.
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Interesting that we have some shots from San Diego CC footage of Rey and Chewie in the Falcon. This leads me to believe that Han is no more.
why everyone says that its rey,the girl in the sdcc footage didn’t look like her at all, and rey certainly didn’t need the make-up that girl had. it was some kind of assistant.
It was Rey’s stand-in. Daisy was probably in make up or just not called to set yet. They were prepping Peter in the Chewie costume before bringing her out. The stand-in is there for blocking and lighting purposes.
Yes it was her stand-in. Who else could it be sitting in the cockpit? It’s pretty clear to me.
I still haven’t bought into the Han dying thing. I’ve ways felt than Chewie dying was more likely to happen, but that’s probably because his death in the EU.
Unlikely. In the behind the scenes clip we see a shot of Peter Meyhew and Daisy Ridley sitting in the front seats of the Falcon.
So what if JJ drops a moon on Chewie to give ode to the former EU….#slowlygettingoverit #Legends
You know, to each their own, but i thought that was the most stupid death in the EU…by moon. it was too impersonal, you have to be careful on how you kill a major character…Chewie dying by battling hundreds of Vong hand to hand while everyone else gets away…yeah, maybe i could have lived with that… not just kinda hanging out howling in fury at the approaching moon, it just seemed like an “after fact”,i hope they don’t copy anything out of the EU sans some of the more interesting characters: Thrawn, Kardde, Jade, Lumiya, etc. but i could live without any ties to the EU what so ever…just my opinion…
chewie won’t die but we have seen concept art of a wookie with a robotic arm so maybe he will lose an arm to Kylo Ren.
No, I still believe, (as much as I wish it weren’t true), that Solo will die. Chewie has a lifespan much longer than that of a human and even if Mayhew cannot play him for future movies to come, someone else can don the suit and keep the character, (and the ties to the familiar characters from the OT), alive and well for years to come.
Dengarx, good point! that would be a great way to connect the OT with all of the new stories coming…i had not considered that, but i hope the thinktank over at Disney has mulled this over…
“Maybe they green-lit the Han Solo Anthology movie, exactly because Han Solo dies. It’s a way to keep the character alive.”
This. And it’s only slightly less cowardly than the way Larry Hama killed off Snake Eyes by having some loser put on his mask two seconds later. If you’re going to kill off a major character, it’s got to sting, otherwise what’s the point?
Making an enjoyable movie …
Yeah, killing off one of the most popular characters EVER is not going to be enjoyable in any way. I know people compare it to killing off Obi-Wan in A New Hope. The difference is that audiences only had gotten to know that character for like an hour before he died whereas most of us have loved the Han Solo character for most of if not our entire lives. That’s why killing him off would be incredibly uncomfortable and a huge mistake/turnoff.
I get that many fans care for the original big 3, but you have to consider that TFA and the ST as a whole is not their story anymore. If you want a trilogy with the OT Big 3 front and center, watch the OT. TFA is about the new generation of heroes and villains. It’s about Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo etc. It’s about their characters, conflicts and struggles. Mark Hamill already said that in an interview. The OT Big 3 are only there to support the new heroes. So if Han dies to show how evil Kylo Ren is, then so be it.
You don’t NEED Han to die to show that just like I didn’t NEED Ben’s death to know not to mess with Vader.
Obi-Wans death in ANH hadn’t that much of an impact because we only knew him for one hour or so. But we know Han for 38 years now (at least those wo saw the OT in theaters), so his death in TFA will have much more of an impact.
I know that Han is popular among many fans, but you have to consider that Ford himself doesn’t like Han Solo and wanted him to die in ROTJ. And Han Solo is not immortal. Same with Luke and Leia. They have the mentor roles in the ST.
WHat happened with the mentor roles of the OT? No one of them survived in that trilogy. What happened with the mentor roles of the PT? No one of them survived except for those who had to survive because they were in the OT. I’m very certain that there will be losses among the Original Big 3 during the ST, and for TFA Han is the most likely candidate. I can’t see him to have much of a role in VIII or IX if he survives TFA, which is not the case with Luke. He’s most likely to die.
It’s a mistake to do something like that to build tension or to make some lame new bad guy look evil. It might make the first viewing of the film more dramatic, but it would absolutely ruin the most important quality of a Star Wars movie. We’re supposed to be able to watch and re-watch these movies for years and still have fun every time. It’s incredibly hard to re-watch a movie that brutally murders a hero.
Obi-wan was different because we basically know him as a ghost, not one of our childhood heroes.
Chewie gets rabies and they have to put him down.
I feel like Harrison Ford probably only agreed to be in TFA if Han Solo died.
I agree with Tim’s comment 100%.
Yup, my thoughts too. No way Han lives through this next movie. The torch has to be passed on over the next three films and someone has to go first. Ford wanted his character to die in ROTJ and I bet getting closure was part of this deal.
That AND another Indiana Jones movie in writing. 😉
This. Ford still adores Indiana Jones and wants to return more than anything.
i remembered. he wanted an indiana jones movie
I never particularly liked the Han Solo character, so I’m cool with him going down for the count.
In the trailer, it also looks like Luke is at someone’s funeral with R2D2. There’s a large fire burning just off-camera to the left, Luke puts his hand on R2D2 in a comforting gesture while bowing his own head. If I was a betting man, I’d say that’s Han’s pyre. Could be Chewie’s, though, or even C3P0. Notice we haven’t seen C3P0 in these trailers yet?
I really doubt they’ll kill 3PO. I mean, what’s the payoff?
No more having to deal with Anthony Daniels?
Who says that is Luke in the trailer? Not saying it isn’t but take a look at the leaked concept art for robotic arms…
Maybe Han sacrifices himself for saving time everybody else for escaping… but staying alive. He seriously injures fighting against his son (Kylo Ren) and dying… falling captivity…. but maybe his surviving will be an open question untill episode VIII…. 😀
That would be a great trick from JJ… hint the rumor of Han’s death…. all of us will crying when he sacrifies himself… but maybe the old smuggler’s luck saves him… he falls the captivity of his own son…and Kylo uses him to trap his sister in Ep8…
“Saving Han” would give and excellent end of “ESB start of RoTJ” feeling to the continue… 🙂
That doesn’t necessarily mean that Han dies. Leia could be referring to the fact that he’s going into danger and Chewy wouldn’t be able to cope without him if he does die. However if Han is going to die, I hope it’s with all guns blazing.
….sounds like a very sad movie :’-(
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No! Han Solo is Star Wars’ top iconic male role model! It gets us to think that “true heroes” are those that die in war to where their hero/heroine survivor’s would lament over!
I don’t care Harrison that you got a life-meaning close death experience because YOU ARE STAR WARS for all ages!
I agreed with Han Solo Fan!
The only character that is going to get killed off is General Ackbar plus 13 000 Stormtroopers!
Han, Luke and Leia are sent to New Alderaan where Lando is the president of the planet. You can see a hidden Mickey in the landscape of Alderaan with his mid finger pointed to those fans who want to see our favourite heroes get killed off.
I don’t want to watch a James Bond movie without James Bond in it because he got killed off in the last movie but than… I still can’t stand Daniel Craig.
But this isn’t Han Solo the movie. This is Star Wars. It’s an ensemble of characters on a journey. It doesn’t always end with a smile on everyone’s face. This is exactly how Han Solos story should end.
I know people don’t want Han to die because they expect a reunion between the big three and that they expect Disney is smart about this. But, we have to get used to it and get over it, which you fans should’ve done with the prequels when they came out. Sometimes I feel Star Wars fans are as greedy and mean as Sith Lords are. We’re already getting the Big 3 characters coming back in the movie. Isn’t that enough?
I think people just wish there were new Star Wars movies with the original three being made continuously since Return of the Jedi.
‘I don’t know how he will cope without him’. If it was Han who died, wouldn’t Leia have said ‘I don’t know how I will cope without him’?
I think that Han lives, otherwise episode 7 will always be refered to as the one where Han dies. Also having got the original cast back together, i think it would damage the movie to shatter the hearts of original fans, killing one off in the opening of the new trilogy.If Han does die, i personally would want a all guns blazing death for him, taking on Boba Fett, crashing the Falcon into slave one, or a star destroyer bridge. Not killed by his son because of family issues. His rumored death just sounds to much like a new hope Obi wan/ Vader rehash.
Well, they should get used to it. Because, it’s not about the return of the original three. It’s about the new faces and the big three passing on the baton to those new faces. Cmon, man. We already are getting the Big 3 in this movie. Isn’t that enough? Sometimes I feel Star Wars fans sound as mean and greedy as Sith Lords want what they want and never get it and turn evil. Besides Han’s death may be why Harrison Ford loved the script. So, don’t blame Disney or JJ. Blame Ford. Plus, Han’s death would prove its his movie in terms of the legacy characters and it also helps drive the emotion of the film given that Rey is possibly Han’s daughter.
J.J. has a problem with rehashing stuff. (See “Star Trek: Into Reference.”
Han Solo always wantGeorge Lucas to kill him off for dramatic effect, I think that’s why he seams so pleased to be filming this film, he’s finally getting what he wanted
Exactly.
Han is gone by the end of TFA, period. It makes the most sense. I am sure it was one of the points that excited Harrison the most about doing the film. Han finally gets the death Harrison always wanted him to have.
Both dies…im very sure.
I think this is classic deception by Disney and Lucasfilm. My theory is that there will be a scene where we think Han dies and he will be out of much of the 3rd act. Then, during the climactic battle at the end, just before the rebel alliance suffers a crushing defeat, Han and Chewy burst onto the scene taking tie fighters out and clearing the path for victory. Imagine the crowd bursting into roaring cheers! Then at the end, Han and Leia retire and leave the alliance to Rey, Poe and Finn.
that would be the best ending because they dont really have to kill off han just so harrison doesnt have to play him anymore. like you said have him and leia retire and they just never are seen again.
I would like to see Finn take Solos place
The fact that we’ve seen Rey in the cockpit of the Falcon makes me think they are setting up Rey to get the ship and the Wookie sidekick.
Who knows though? Finn is possible.
I think the heart of this is that Harrison Ford wanted the character to be killed. I am convinced Han dies and Chewie attaches himself to Rey to “cope” with the loss.
Chewie will not die. His character isn’t dependent on a single actor. They’re not going to retire an asset with no expiry date.
Harrison Ford is OLD. That’s got to be a factor here.
Isn’t that “quote” a double edged sword though? What is he coping with? If your brother dies, your Mother isn’t going to wonder how you will cope with his loss..without him. Is there something else bad that happened then? Han OR Chewie do not have the other to lean on. And why wouldn’t Leia be the ideal person to help with that, whether it’s Han or Chewie that’s died?
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If Han dies, I would at least love to see it play out this way. Han dies and then at the very end of the movie his force ghost appears to Leia saying “your brother taught me a thing or two”. After all was said and done, Han was, to some extent, a force user but never really knew it, or told anyone. This would bring the force back from the concept of “you have to have a certain midichlorian count” to “may the force be with you”. Part of the wonder of the force is that idea that, perhaps, anyone can have access to it-not just the genetically elite.
I dont have a problem with Han dying, but I’ll be upset if Han, Luke and Leia dont get screen time together at some point. The more I hear about this AND Luke’s brief scene at the end, the more worried I get.
I think you should respect and accept it because, it makes Luke a mysterious figure being that he may have gone into isolation in the 30 years between ROTJ and TFA.
Chewie is not going to die. It’s Han. Harrison Ford wanted Han to die in ROTJ and he’s waivered for years about as Han if the opportunity arose (which, obviously, it did). Based on the rumors, JJ is making this movie for adult SW fans, but remember, this is now in the hands of Disney. 3PO and Artoo are easily loveable characters that make for great toys (merchandising dollars) and appeal to kids. Chewie definitely falls into this category. I think he will transfer his “life debt” to Rey, since I’m pretty sure she is a Solo. As a side but related note, BB8 is going to prove lovable to kids and will be the merchandising bonanza of TFA.
That’s funny, I made a thread about that many moons ago after I randomly found my Vector Prime book with chewie and the Moon. I had thought at the time,and this was before the Solo rumor, that if they killed someone off that it would be chewie IMO
He did it all for the Wookie
Will he dieded, or survided that is the question.
If Han dies, it will take the feel good out if the film and people won’t go see it multiple times at the theater. Disney isn’t dumb. But they will mislead us and make us think Han dies, only to have him save the day in an epic way at the end. The bottom line is money. Han dies, less money….
Wrong, If Han dies then people will see it more to see Harrison’s last time as Solo
I disagree.
TFA and VIII will both make more money if Han survives this December.
To me, Han is the real lead character in SW than Luke! So, I hope Disney won’t take our heroes away!
How? its lukes story. its always been a skywalker story. the enitire OT was focused on luke becoming a jedi to redeem his father. han is just a pilot smuggler that helps out the alliance. han is cool but hes not so cool that hes the leading character.
Oh man. It’s really funny to read posts like this. So Han was the lead character of the OT? Hmmmm… but the last time I watched the OT (it was recently) the story was mainly about Luke Skywalker and how he became a Jedi and redeemed his father. I also watched the PT and they told the backstory of Luke’s father, not Han’s. So I think it’s more that Star Wars is about the Skywalker family. Han is just the third wheel. And I’m very certain that he dies in TFA – because that film is not about the Original Big 3 anymore. It’s about the new characters. Get used to it!
What is this Prequel trilogy people speak of?
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You know Titanic is the second-highest grossing film of all time, right? People love a good death scene. As long as it’s a proper hero’s send off, I’m fine with it.
Yeah, Gandalf dying killed The Lord of the Rings.
Lol, did you just try to make a point about popular characters dieing by referencing a character who actually didn’t die? I’m confused
He meant Gandolph “the grey” but he battles the beast on the way down and becomes Gandolph “the white!” BUT THAT WAS ANOTHER STORY! The only relevance to SW is Senator Palpatine transforming into Emperor Palpatine!
It looks like Han Solo first and then Chewbacca may both become casualties. Chewbacca by the hands of Gwendolyn Christie’s Chrometrooper character (both tall) and Han Solo by his son Kylo Ren. Luke comes at the end to save Rey and Finn’s narrow escape to continue to EP VIII; where, Luke Skywalker takes the place of Yoda and begins training her against her brother and Finn against Chrometrooper whom Chewy had to die saving. They both rush off by force feelings premature like Luke in ESB and Princess Leia rescues the two as Imperial infiltration tricks making KYLO REN AND CHROMETROOPER HUNT THE GALAXY FOR THEM LEADING TO BEGINNING OF EP IX!
Well… Technically he died, buuuut then he came back even whiter than he was before, and with a new fancy staff
My point is that was an epically tragic moment that made everyone want to cry but it didn’t cast a cloud over the whole movie (even for those who didn’t know he’d be back).
Solo is so not going to die.
Han Dies = Grown Men Cry
Chewie Dies = Entire Audience Cries
This is Hsrrison’s way of retiring from acting.
Indiana Jones will die too.
*whispers* Chrisssss Praaaattttt
In every film, senior character took the bullet. This time, it may be Solo. The bottom line is how he goes. This should be handled with extrem justice, truly serving for the character. The worst case is Capt.Kirk in ST Generstions. If JJ fail to handle it properly, SW fan never forgive him in thousands years. 100 times bashing as much as Lucas had with Phantom Menace.
This scene will be make or break moment of ST overall.
Which senior character died in V?
He gets his arms ripped out of their sockets….urrrrghhh.
Don’t worry. Even if Han dies he will most certainly be back for the CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!
If Han Solo dies, why would Leia be talking to wookies? Is Chewie so emotionally sensitive that he needs to go home to his family to handle the grief?
Or is it possible that Chewie dies and Leia is informing his kin about his death?
If Leia is talking to Chewie and Solo is the one that dies, why would she say “I don’t know how he will cope without him.”?
Nah. Either it’s Luke who dies, or it’s Chewie.
Maybe the “him” is Luke. How will Chewie cope with this loss with Luke in hiding as well? The film ends with Rey and Chewie leaving to find Luke…It would also hit the same notes as the end of ESB when Lando and Chewie’s quest to track down Boba Fett and Han.
I don’t think this is how it plays out, but it’s one possibility.
Also, I wouldn’t read too much into the Wookies being there. There are likely other Wookies in the Resistance.
When I first heard the rumors of the script(this bit included), I initially hoped that it will not happen that way, but I realized that this new trilogy should be very focused on the next generation of heroes rather than the old ones because it’s more effective in this kind of tale.
Whatever we see, it will surely inspire the fans of both generations to a level never seen before.
what if moments before Han’s death, we discover he’s been Force sensitive all along, he just didn’t know it
well we should have just tested his blood for midoclorians, then he would know.
What if Han gets taken away by a pissed off Kylo who has issues with old Dad and Chewie is blaming himself as he feels he has failed.
So at the end of the movie the cast think he is dead but we know the truth and they all turn up on Luke’s doorstep to ask for help?
Pffff this spoiler still sounds soo stupid.
It makes more sense that comment would be about Chewie not being able to cope with the loss of Han.
But if it’s true, then it also suggests to me that for Leia to say such, that her and Han may have been estranged for a long time (you don’t get the impression that she’s lost the love of her life and the father of her children).
I assumed Han would die before filming began just because of what happened on ROTJ,almost as if it was a condition for Ford to return.
I’m starting to wonder if Leia will die too leaving (uncle?)Luke to shepherd Rey in the future. I’m guessing Luke dies in ep8 either way.
Don’t you mean Harrison Ford could die before filming began.
…no way is Chewie gonna die – he`ll be like 3-PO & R2,he`ll always be around – I reckon he`ll be Finn`s big buddy in EP`s 8 & 9.
Maybe the “him” in the comment about coping with it is Han and Leia’s son.
I actually think its Chewie that gets killed. Peter Mayhews health is not getting better so for him to pick up the mantle as Chewie for more Star Wars films is streching it abit.
No I think Harrison Ford is well pleased with how this film is turning out and the following films will be, so i dont think he’ll be killed off quite yet.
Chewie can’t die this December! He’ll miss Life Day!
No way they are letting Chewie live again just to get killed off in TFA. It makes no sense to me at all and is horrible storytelling; it’s like killing the dog. That isn’t Star Wars. Han dying makes sense, but Chewie? No way.
Chewie were home…and dead
Han and Chewie both die in the next three films. Remember Han was supposed to die in the second act of the OT. George and Irvine Kershner butted heads over this and settled for being frozen in Carbonite to give the same story telling effect as being killed off without suffering the effects it might have had. Now both Han and Chewie are side notes. Just a part of the OT to connect to the new movies. They are expendable. In fact the death of any of the main characters from OT help to feed the climax for each act. Han dies in first act. Chewie dies in the second act(episode8). Don’t count out Luke or Leia dieing in third act. My bet is Leia and one of the new characters. Finn is my bet. In the immortal words of the Emperor. Wipe them out, all of them.
yes. exactly
Interesting theory!
I’m going to guess that Leia survives the trilogy. Han dies in 7, perhaps Luke later. Everybody else survives but the OT cast are retired from the story.
Leia is talking about how will R2 cope with C3-P0 being gone, as he has been taken into service by the first order…
I wonder who if any of the NEW characters would be at risk of perishing? (whether good or evil) most likely not any of the new big 3, except poe maybe?? im sure Leia here is referring to one of our old friends, but hmmm…..
Chewie better not die. Han dying is very sad but i can see why that could work for many reasons. but not chewie, nooooooooooooooooo
Han will die for sure.
Why is the assumption that seeing Rey & Chewie in the cockpit implies Han’s death? Can’t he and Finn be in the gunner seats?
It’s like seeing a photo of Leia and Chewie in the cockpit and thinking Han or Luke are dead in IV.
The problem is that Rey in the cockpit isn’t the only evidence. I don’t think anyone is basing the Han death theories on one shot in the Falcon.
That said, I will be very surprised if by the end of this film Han is alive and Rey/Chewie are not in possession of the Falcon.
Just my opinion.
Capt phasma has cloaking abilities. Han is presumed dead. He survives wearing stolen suit.
Have been thinking for a while that maybe Han will not die. What if the rumor about Han and chewy being held prisoner on a star destroy happens during the movie? Han and chewy both get caught, they learn of the 1st orders plans and during their escape Han gets caught again. Chewy then seeks the help of Hans daughter Rey to free him, their prison break goes horribly wrong Chewy dies and Rey makes a get away and crash lands on a remote planet . This is were she discovers Luke in hiding( as the 1st order are seeking out Luke they would be close to the planet he is hiding on) he could use some cheesy line like “i have been waiting for you”. Rey talks Luke around to help the rebels again and with Lukes return ‘the force awakens’. This leads to an assault on the 1st order, their super weapon being destroyed and the 1st order in retreat. This could leave us going into the second movie of the ST with Finn and Rey training under Luke and going after Kylo and Leia seting up a task force to find Han lead by Poe.
These reasons (for me) would explain why we see Rey and chewy flying the Falcon. Why there may be other Wookiees cast. I would find it hard for Han to give up the Falcon. It also gives enough time for Han and Chewy to meet Rey, Finn, Poe etc… explain Lukes lightsaber etc… and a reason for Chewy to pair up with Rey.
This is just my crazy theory about it how it might pan out.
I don’t think he dies. My thought on the matter is that it is possible that Chewie dies and Han is left devastated. Remember Chewie owes Han the life debt and would sacrifice himself to save Han before letting anything happen to him. I do however think that if Han were to die it would be him taking out say Captain Phasma in some fashion befitting to Han Solo. Because I don’t think Han is going to take out Kyle O Ren. I think that’s Rye who does it. Poe is the new Wedge in my opinion and possibly his son. I do hope that they don’t kill Han Solo only because I think it would be one hell of a hit to the new franchise with possibly a lot Star Wars fans hating on this ending. It could be as bad the famous Darth Vader “NOOOOOO!!!!” ending.
Remember what Harrison said recently about TFA story; that it was ‘perhaps, an emotional rounding of the original trilogy!’ I think Han will die, not in a blaze of glory but in a desperate, emotional bid to convince his son (Kylo) to stop. I think THAT is where the emotion will stem from, the fact that Han will show his vulnerable side only for it to be rebuffed in a tragic manner.
Also, Darth Plagius could cheat death, perhaps,Han could still return if Luke learns this method too. I don’t know.
Nobody who has any familiarity with SW should be surprised to hear that Han dies in the first movie. Ford has been pushing for this since the OT and I don’t think he’d agree to come back unless Han got a heroic sendoff.
I just hope that he gets a good death scene and isn’t simply gunned down or blown up.
If Chewie dies in the film, I hope they use practical effect elements. Because you see, practical effects.. they’re like, it’s the bomb!
Practical effects will make Star Wars feel like the original Star Wars. Because you see, the newer Star Wars were kinda lame. You know? Like, George Lucas ruined my childhood because of Episodes 1-3.
So, I truly hope they use practical effects if Chewie dies. Yeah!!!!
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Harrison Ford tried to kill Han in 1980, and he tried again in ep7,…How?? first he breaks his own leg, and later he tried to kill Han Solo crashing his airplane…(?)
URRGHURRGHU….GURGHURUGH!
It would be sad either way if either Han, Chewie, Luke, or Leia bit the big one. However, it’s how they die that would determine if their death meant anything. I agree that if they kill Chewie, Then, to make his death mean something, he would need to die in honor of his life debt. Luke’s death would have to be a sacrifice so profound that it would cause such a disturbance in the Force that every Force adept being in the galaxy would feel it, thus creating the possibility of a Force war the likes had not been seen since the first Jedi/Sith war. Han’s death would also need to include the Falcon to make the “Chewie, we’re home” line even more emotional. Han would have to die with the Falcon in such a heroic way that it rallies the Rebels/Resistance to beat the Empire/First Order once and for all. Same with Leia. Hopefully, Abrams will not give any of the iconic characters the “David Carson treatment” for Kirk’s Death in Star Trek Generations and have them either shot in the back or fall with a heap of metal to their death. Even though Kirk saved a planet with millions, his sacrifice was cheapened by a cheap death. I honestly would like to see Han and Chewie flying off into the galactic horizon in the Falcon never to be seen again except in legends, however, I would accept their sacrifices only if they mean something and are artistically composed. It has to mean something. It would really suck if any of the iconic characters got the Greedo treatment.
no. I want the falcon for more movies.
Looking at it from a different perspective, out of Peter and Harrison I think it is Peter who would literally struggle, to do more films. Poor guy can just about walk as it is, from that kind of view it is more likely Chewie could die as Peter may not be able to carry on. But with that said Chewie is mostly costume and would be the easier to replace with a stunt actor for action shots if Chewie carried on.
I’m tied myself, either could die and I don’t mind them dying if it adds to a great story.
Its all in Chewies eyes with his costume , it may only seem a small thng but they add the life to that pile of hair and you’d need to find someone with similar eyes
Did I miss a post? Please forgive me if I have, but… why is everyone associating “Death” with a “physical” Death? Did not Anakin’s fall to the Dark Side represent his “Death” as Anakin, and his “Birth” as Darth Vader? I now believe that the “Person” who is Luke is the one who “Dies”, and this story will revolve around his redemption. Chewie being saddened could just as easily apply to Luke’s death and Han’s death, as can Leia’s comments to the Wookies be a reflection on Han’s misery at his friends fall to the Dark Side. Remember, this story was originally about a Son’s redemption of his Father…
Rey: I won’t leave you here, I’ve got to save you!
Luke: You already have Rey, you were right about me… Tell your brother… You were right…
Rey: I won’t leave you here, I’ve got to save you!
Kylo: You already have Rey, you were right about me… Tell our Mother… You were right…
The greatest disinformation is a little truth wrapped in a whole lot of lies… the *lies* being everyone’s “point of view” of the tidbits of truth we are being fed. Come on December so we can finally see JJ’s “point of veiw”…
I don’t buy it. Luke conquered the dark side; he passed his test. He couldnt be turned. Imo Luke’s role will be similar to Yoda’s role in the OT.
I don’t really understand why everyone has to die in the story like it’s some sort of requirement, can’t the oldies just kick back at a retirement cantina ?
No one ever said Han dies. Not JJ, not Kathleen, not Disney, not Harrison Ford. No one! This is all based on the idea that over 30 years ago, Harrison Ford didn’t like the Han character and wanted to be killed off. A lot changes in 30 plus years. Harrison also grew up….
Well, there is more to this than that. Saying this is based only on what happened 30 years ago isn’t really accurate.
Han’s death isnt certain but some things are pointing in that direction. We aren’t pulling this out of nowhere.
To dramatize the story, KASDAN always insisted some character must die during the story mtg of ESB, ROTJ.
I suspect Han won’t die if Disney uses the treatment from Lucas. Because Lucas intended to use Han, Luke,
Leia as cameo. After Kasdan and JJ took over the story,
it was said Han had a Gigantic role in TFA, which could be surmised his final moment.
Good points. I just hope if Han dies, it’s in dramatic fashion, with all guns blazing. Anything less would be disappointing and not Han’s style….
Reference the end of the San Diego Comic Con behind the scenes footage: Han reluctantly sits down in the Falcon’s cockpit, with Rey by his side, not Chewy. Just say’n.
Chewie was fixing the hyper drive like always in that scene. Chewie not as co-pilot is no surprise.
Not sure could be C3PO, seems to fit together with what we know and have seen, maybe thats why luke is comforting R2 in teaser?
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It might go down in history as one of those movies you wish did not exist. Like Terminator 3 and 4, I pretend they did not happen. Like wise with Jurassic Park 2 and 3.
I pretend the Ewoks didn’t exist.
It is known that Harrison wanted his character killed off in TESB, as it would give more depth to the story, only Lucas didn’t want to hear it, so it didn’t happen. To be honest I think that the only reason Harrison is onboard is because his character meets his demise in TFA, and he can lay Han to rest, like he wanted in TESB. Could it be possible that Abrams used ‘that’ carrot dangled in front of Harrison to help him put pen to paper…hmm?
I have inside information that the Marvel Chewbacca comic will be developed into a Star Wars Anthology Lifetime Network show, with plot as follows:
Chewie 1) takes a leave of absense from the Rebellion/Resistance/M.Falcon to enter grief therapy to deal with Han’s death, 2) fails grief counceling, is unwilling to participate on their terms 3) spirals out of control into substance abuse, homelessness, weight gain 4) hallucinates revenge fantasies, 5) enters and fails rehabilitation, 6) spirals further out of control, has near death experience, 7) enters cult which rehabilitates but also brainwashes him, 8) in cult Chewie renounces violence, breaks bowcaster, 9) eventually becomes dissillusioned with cult, readopts violence and fixes bowcaster, 10) struggles to get back in shape, 11) goes back to Kashyyk to repair his broken relationships and right the wrongs he did as an addict, 12) -MEDITATION SEQUENCE- [Chewie in mystic Life Day robes], 13) -TRAINING MONTAGE- [Chewie in track suit, headband and wristbands], 14) forms a crack team of Wookie assassins, 15) formulate and execute an elaborate, complex and righteous revenge assasination of Han’s murderer, 16) Wookies and Ewoks party together, sing “Nub Nub”, Chewie uses hallucinogens responsibly under the care of an open minded doctor to treat post-traumatic stress didorder
I think Chewie bites it. JJ wants us to think Han dies in this one. He’s trying to throw us off. Remember it was the second movie where something bad happened to Solo when he was frozen and taken away. I think he will die in epidode 8
It’s Han. The behind the scenes video shows Rey & Chewie in the cockpit. She looks different ( unlike what we’ve seen before). Making starwars has been pretty much spot on in their description of certain scenes and if you read the Making of Return of the Jedi, Kasdan wanted to kill off a main character to give the story weight. Lucas vetoed it. Besides, if you watch the comic con panel, Harrison doesn’t come across as particularly sentimental about Star Wars.
I think it would be cool to have Chewie die. Chewie dies nobly doing something to save Han. Then we can see the raw anger that Han produces feed into the force. Then Han does something completely stupid to avenge Chewie and fails miserably ending his life…and Han knows he did something very foolish. Han’s death sets Luke off and then mega business hits the fan… Ahhhhh. My imagination is running WILD with this movie!
When previously asked (years ago and on multiple occasions) about returning to a new Star Wars or Indiana Jones movie, Harrison Ford has always said “only if they kill the character”. I’m certain he got his wish.
I would not be surprised if he is killed by his own offspring while trying to protect Luke. Perhaps jumping in front of Kylo Ren’s lightsaber to save his friend and last remaining Jedi.